Sabre 2

[freebird 0]

Sabre 2..Is it a good canopy for a novice loading @ 0.9?
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[skygod7777 0]

well, i don't know a whole lot about sabre 2's, but i can say, from what i heard, that it would be a ok canopy for a novice(40-50 jumps). even at a 1.1 wing loading would probalbly be fine. but, i don't know how they proform, i've never jumped one.
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kelly

[Jimbo 0]

A few months ago I put between 20 and 30 jumps on a Sabre 2 170 @ approximately 1.5. I thought it was a great canopy. Glide is relatively flat, fairly responsive, and easy as hell to land. I also put exactly 1 jump on a Sabre 2 190 - I thought it felt like a skybarge, I didn't like it at all, but it was fairly docile and a piece of cake to land. I can only imagine that a Sabre 2 @ .9:1 is more than suitable as a beginner canopy.
Good luck
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Jim

[drenaline 0]

I have read a lot of post saying that it has schwweet openings but a lot of off heading openings. A spectre is a good canopy too.
"Life is full of danger, so why be afraid?"
drenaline

[AggieDave 6]

First response would be "yeah, that is what the canopy was designed for" but I want to quantify it too. Get some people who know what they're talking about to watch your first 10 landings or so, that way you can get some critiques. I'm not saying that you aren't a good canopy pilot or anything like that, I've never met you, so I don't know. I'm just saying for people like us (under 300 jumps or so), I think it is good to have some experienced people to give advice to what you are doing when you are flying/landing a canopy that is a step up in performance then what you're used to. All it can do is make you a better canopy pilot. Aerials
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[Lindsey 0]

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I have read a lot of post saying that it has schwweet openings but a lot of off heading openings. A spectre is a good canopy too.

Off-heading openings is something that in my experience can be fixed to a large extent by watching the body position.....when I first got my FX, it had a real tendency to open up all crazy.....well, after I had to cut it away once because of line twists, I figured I needed to watch the body position a bit more on opening....has practically eliminated ANY opening problems.....
Just my $.02
Peas~
Lindsey
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[DZDale 0]

Id Say the sabre2 would be fine for your needs, but as a first canopy loaded at 0.9 I think its an expensive option, Id rather go used for about 50-100 jumps and then go for a sabre2 at a higher loading, The cost would then be more justified. Another good option would be the Hornet from PISA, It is almost exactly the same as the sabre2, in fact it was on the market before the sabre2. I jump one and let me tell you that it is Shweeet, and its also alot cheaper than the Sabre2.

Good luck with your choiceBlue Skies
Dale

[crazymel 0]

I've got a Sabre2 170 loaded at .8:1 - hehehe - all I'll say is you should be able to limp away from most landings...hehe (or at least, I've been able to limp away from them all). I love my Sabre2, but am still getting use to the landing - BUT I ONLY HAVE 22 JUMPS, so read this only for "entertainment" purposes.

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[rgoper 0]

wing load is not so much of a factor here, it's the flight charistics of the semi-elipitical wing of the canopy itself. be prepared for flatter finals, way less "sink" in on landing, and until you see for yourself how the brakes handle, don't try to run it out on landing, you'll just be busting that ass, trust me. never stop flying the canopy while it is in flight, slow it down with your brakes, then milk your flare to your landing spot, and bear in mind, to not try to put you feet down thinking your going to run it out, it's flying faster than you think.

--Richard--
"We Will Not Be Shaken By Thugs, And Terroist"

[kallend 2,106]

Skydive Chicago uses Sabre II at about that loading for first jump students.

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[Zenister 0]

so flight/landing wise what am i looking at going from a Sabre2 190 (rental gear) to a Sabre 190 (my very own hooray!!) when my cypress gets installed before the 4th?

i've already been told i can get used to getting smacked on occasion but what else do i need to keep in mind?

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[DZDale 0]

I didnt mention that I am loading ine @ 1.38:1 and find it pretty docile, that is why I say dont buy something expensive if you are only going to be loading it @ 0.9:1, Rather buy something cheaper and when you can put a decent load on it and be gaurenteed with good performance, then buy something more expensive. Whatever choice you make good Luck !

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MY DZ

[nicknitro71 0]

I'm with DZDale. Get a Hornet instead! Virtually the same canopy at a fraction of the price and it’s very well built like all PISA products.

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[billvon 3,067]

>Skydive Chicago uses Sabre II at about that loading for first jump
> students.

If I recall correctly, first jump students at SDC all do tandems - first solo jump students use the Sabres around jump 3-4.

[AndyMan 7]

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If I recall correctly, first jump students at SDC all do tandems - first solo jump students use the Sabres around jump 3-4.

That is correct. SDC students do two tandems before starting AFP - SDC's enhanced AFF.

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[diver123 0]

A little off the subject, but in comment to the reply outlining the enhanced training which includes two tandems; I think it's a great way to go. I actually did 4 as part of my training, then it dumped me right into aff level 3. I was very freefall aware and performed well.

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[freebird 0]

I finally jumped it.....smooth opening.It has alot of glide...I need to do a few more to get the hang of it.I went from a 150 Sabre with a .7 wing load to a 135 Sabre 2 with a .9 wing load...Im moving through the air alot faster ! IM always afraid of overshooting my target.this makes me turn on final a little late.....But I like flying the canopy.........Imsure once I get the landing down it will be sweet

[AggieDave 6]

Besure to pay more attention to body position when you deploy then you might be used too. Although it isn't a full elliptical, it is more so then the original Sabre. Line twists could prove to be more exciting...

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[freebird 0]

I almost got twist as it was opening on my first jump on it but they work them selves out right away....but I was getting ready to grab them.......and by the way Im thinking of trading this canopy for a regular Sabre because I was not aware that my canopy was going to be slightly elliptical....I would have to wait 6 more weeks again for a custom colored Sabre

[Jimbo 0]

Don't go and trade your canopy in for a regular just because someone told you that the SabreII is 'slightly elliptical' or 'lightly tapered' or whatever PD calls them these days. Did you ever jump a Navigator during AFF or student jumps? They're 'slightly elliptical' too.

The SabreII is a good canopy and at your loading it's going to be fairly docile. It's going to be forgiving of all but the worst mistakes.

Stay safe,

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Jim

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[freebird 0]

OK I WILL TOUGH IT OUT..........MABE I WILL TRY SLDEING IN ALL OF MY LANDINGS. I WILL AT LEAST NOT HAVE SORE LEG LIKE I DID LAST TIME

[Jimbo 0]

Well, if you're having problems landing the canopy then it might be in your best interests to seek out some advise at the local DZ. It shouldn't be difficult to find someone who can explain the basics you need to know to start standing up most if not all of your landings. It's really nothing more than a little education and a little practice.

Good luck.

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Jim

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