MrHixxx 0 #26 February 14, 2003 I just had an idea. I added an extra loop of shock cord to keep it out of my pack job. Anyone see the pros or cons to this setup? see photo... -Hixxx death,as men call him, ends what they call men -but beauty is more now than dying’s when Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhino 0 #27 February 14, 2003 QuoteJust a question: What is wrong with pulling the slider behind your neck???? At 80mph in a dive it normally doesn't want to stay.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhino 0 #28 February 14, 2003 When I pull high I just take a couple of shoe strings and tie the slider in 2 places. So it can't come un-collapsed. I don't tie it to myself in any way or the reserve flap.. It only takes 10-15 seconds to tie it up.. Rhino Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MrHixxx 0 #29 February 14, 2003 Just a question: What is wrong with pulling the slider behind your neck???? blues *** It doesn't stay put. I also wear camera on most of my jumps. My slider gets under the dbox on my pc 110 and pisses me off quite regularly despite having the one way bumpers installed at the bottom of my risers that were mentioned in an earlier post. -Hixxxdeath,as men call him, ends what they call men -but beauty is more now than dying’s when Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cornholio 0 #30 February 14, 2003 Quote When I pull high I just take a couple of shoe strings and tie the slider in 2 places. So it can't come un-collapsed. I don't tie it to myself in any way or the reserve flap.. It only takes 10-15 seconds to tie it up.. Rhino Unless I missed something, that would have the same effect as a collapsible slider, right ? Mine takes about 3 seconds to collapse, rather than 15. It has nothing to do with stowing the slider, but collapsing it should take just a couple seconds. Butthead: Whoa! Burritos for breakfast! Beavis: Yeah! Yeah! Cool! bellyflier on the dz.com hybrid record jump Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hookitt 1 #31 February 15, 2003 Quote I posted this and no one has said anything. Ok Ok... I'll say something... I've put those on all my risers for many years, Works Great. - -My grammar sometimes resembles that of magnetic refrigerator poetry... Ghetto Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hookitt 1 #32 February 15, 2003 Quote ? Mine takes about 3 seconds to collapse, rather than 15. It has nothing to do with stowing the slider, but collapsing it should take just a couple seconds. Then you're doing it All wrong, Come over this week and I'll be happy to over engineer something to make it much tougher to work with. - -My grammar sometimes resembles that of magnetic refrigerator poetry... Ghetto Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhino 0 #33 February 15, 2003 Even a collapsable slider will puff open and catch air.. When I close mine I like it to stay very tightly wrapped to the slider doesn't catch air.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
listo 0 #34 February 17, 2003 I used to have a slider that would never stay collapsed during a high speed dive and it would always get caught up on my helmet as well. What I did was replace the original "pull up" keeper lines with ones that had a much larger and heavier "stub" for retention. The next thing I had to deal with was that the ends of the slider kept inflating and causing the thing to ride up against my helmet again. My solution for that was to sew on some velcro "keepers" on the ends of the slider, front and back. After I would pull the keeper cords, I would mate up the velcro. This would keep the slider held together and would not let it slide up the risers to spread out and inflate. All together, it would take about 10 seconds total to stow everything and I didn't have anything attached to any flaps or myself in any way and the slider would stay put where I wanted it to. If I can find my old tapes from some of those jumps I will snatch a still from the video and send it to you so you and your rigger can see exactly what I was doing. I had to sew a piece of velcro in line with the HOOK side of the velcro so it didn't cause any un-needed wear on any part of the canopy or slider during deployment. I would just unstick that part and then wrap it around the whole slider and remate it. All total the velcro was about 3 inches long on each side. I also used industrial velcro. The hooks weren't as small and pointy. (less abrasive to the touch) This seemed to hold better too. Just make sure that the "hook" side is the one sewn completely to the slider with the "loop" side being the one that wraps around the slider. Makes for easier replacement when needed. If you don't have a collapsable slider, I could see where three of these velcro holders would do the trick quite nicely. Talk to your rigger about it. It is a ten minute sew job and really cheap to maintain and a lot safer than having anything attached to the rig or yourself. Live today as tomorrow may not come Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IMGR2 0 #35 February 18, 2003 Well just for a little difference in thought and design, I have recently contracted my rigger to design a removable slider. He has already built two different designs, although one is quite questionable I WILL be test jumping them and I will report back to ya'll. Wish me luck. Bryan Gravity Rats Freefly Team Atair Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weid14 0 #36 February 18, 2003 PD has a very decent design.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
listo 0 #37 February 18, 2003 wear a neck brace just in case. Live today as tomorrow may not come Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rdutch 0 #38 February 18, 2003 QuoteI just had an idea. I added an extra loop of shock cord to keep it out of my pack job. Anyone see the pros or cons to this setup? see photo... -Hixxx I like that design, I might have to steal it. Even though I havent had any problems with my rubber band attatchment on the slider, but it is easier than sewing a loop. Ray Small and fast what every girl dreams of! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SPY 0 #39 February 18, 2003 QuoteI just had an idea. I added an extra loop of shock cord to keep it out of my pack job. Anyone see the pros or cons to this setup? see photo... -Hixxx Here is another idea: would it be suitable to make a removable slider? Imagine a slider with a system similar to the split sliders had some years ago but with two split systems, one on each sides, so after opening the fabric would be removable and could be put inside the jumpsuit, leaving only the grommets and the tape between them on the risers(just like cross connectors). It would gives a better peripherical vision and couldn't reinflate. What you think about it? Does it has already been explored (Icarus? PD?) By the way, this thread is also in "gear and rigging" here : http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=388861#388861 S-P =========================== Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #40 February 19, 2003 Just a reminder... deal with traffic before dealing with your slider. 10 seconds is 9 seconds too long if there is traffic around. And Chuck has posted his rant on pro swoopers that hang in brakes so long dealing with their removable slider/dbag/whatever they they hose everyone behind them. I'f you can't do it one handed and not looking at it... it needs redesigned. Double split sliders would work if you are willing to reassemble it every time (PITA) and have a place to stow the section that you take off.Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
listo 0 #41 February 19, 2003 Just being the devil's advocate here.......but wouldn't it make sense to make the exit altitude higher so each individual has enough time to set up something as simple as a slider. Live today as tomorrow may not come Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkymonkeyONE 4 #42 February 19, 2003 Negative. The higher you make the exit point, the higher the "low" guys will open and continue to hose those behind them when you (as per SOP) put people out in order of wingload (highest to lowest). The only real cure is to find out ahead of time who is going to drag ass, then put them out last. Believe me when I tell you that all these removable contraptions take a LONG time to stow. I will still always be a proponent of "disposable" PC/bridle/bag combos. Generally, while one might gain a fraction of a second in "speed" rounds, those systems were designed solely to aid in distance rounds. Chuck Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
