leggit 0 #1 October 20, 2003 I probably don't need to be asking this question but will anyway. I've been experimenting with different approaches recently and am using one now that seems to be working well. Basically, I'm simply doing a 90 degree front riser turn up higher, and then once I'm on the heading I want I'm going to double front risers. I've spoken to guys at the dz and it all seems cool, just wondering if anyone knows of any drawbacks etc (obviously it's not as fast as a 270). Thanks. Jesse. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
parachutist 2 #2 October 20, 2003 Quote Basically, I'm simply doing a 90 degree front riser turn up higher, and then once I'm on the heading I want I'm going to double front risers. Jesse. That's the approach I started out with a few years ago and I think it's very useful because you can fit into the normal traffic pattern with everyone else. Anytime that I'm unsure about the traffic around me... uncomfortable about the idea of a 180 or 270 because there are too many people on approach at the same time... I'll do the basic left hand landing pattern, with the last 90 degree left turn being front riser. Turning a little high and then maintaining the speed with double fronts is a good practice too. It keeps you out of the corner. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites andy2 0 #3 October 20, 2003 how would you practice this on a canopy that doesnt eat up much altitude in a front riser dive? I want to start practicing 90 degree front riser approaches in 100-150 jumps, but my sabre 120 just doesnt seem to eat up enough altitude. Im afraid of doing a low 90 and even maintaing withdouble fronts and cutting someone off on their normal final.. --------------------------------------------- let my inspiration flow, in token rhyme suggesting rhythm... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites trigger 0 #4 October 20, 2003 Just my 2pence! But to me it's all about awareness.Flying in brakes,observing the other canopies in the air and making adjustments in your flight plan to allow you to "Land Alone". If you jump a DZ with a large PLA,you could practice your approaches away from the main landing area[Not that magnetic spot nearest the packing shed]. Always practice new techniques up high,using your altimeter to gauge how much altitude is lost per technique,slowly,over time bringing things closer to the ground and building a sight picture. Remember it's not a race to the ground so take your time and be safe. P.S.Master the slow flight techniques first.CHOP WOOD COLLECT WATER. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites parachutist 2 #5 October 20, 2003 Quotehow would you practice this on a canopy that doesnt eat up much altitude in a front riser dive? I want to start practicing 90 degree front riser approaches in 100-150 jumps, but my sabre 120 just doesnt seem to eat up enough altitude. Im afraid of doing a low 90 and even maintaing withdouble fronts and cutting someone off on their normal final.. Well there's a prerequisite to doing front riser turns down low, and that's doing straight-in approaches using double fronts down low. At your experience level (if 75 jumps is correct) you haven't yet made enough jumps to have mastered the basics of landing using only brake toggles (even if you are extraordinary canopy pilot material), so give it more time and at least double your # of jumps before even attempting a straight-in front riser approach. It's important to learn the basics first, and that does not mean learn how to land your canopy exactly where you want most of the time, but how to land it there every time, gracefully. Also by giving it more time before adding front riser input down low, you'll have that much more time to experiment with your risers up high (above 2k ft.), doing some drills: - double front riser dive, then flare - double front riser dive, see how long you can hold it, then flare. - double front riser dive, then let go of the front risers quickly and see what happens (no brake toggle input) - double front riser dive, then ease the front risers out slowly and see how this is different from above Have fun & don't rush anything Chris Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
andy2 0 #3 October 20, 2003 how would you practice this on a canopy that doesnt eat up much altitude in a front riser dive? I want to start practicing 90 degree front riser approaches in 100-150 jumps, but my sabre 120 just doesnt seem to eat up enough altitude. Im afraid of doing a low 90 and even maintaing withdouble fronts and cutting someone off on their normal final.. --------------------------------------------- let my inspiration flow, in token rhyme suggesting rhythm... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
trigger 0 #4 October 20, 2003 Just my 2pence! But to me it's all about awareness.Flying in brakes,observing the other canopies in the air and making adjustments in your flight plan to allow you to "Land Alone". If you jump a DZ with a large PLA,you could practice your approaches away from the main landing area[Not that magnetic spot nearest the packing shed]. Always practice new techniques up high,using your altimeter to gauge how much altitude is lost per technique,slowly,over time bringing things closer to the ground and building a sight picture. Remember it's not a race to the ground so take your time and be safe. P.S.Master the slow flight techniques first.CHOP WOOD COLLECT WATER. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
parachutist 2 #5 October 20, 2003 Quotehow would you practice this on a canopy that doesnt eat up much altitude in a front riser dive? I want to start practicing 90 degree front riser approaches in 100-150 jumps, but my sabre 120 just doesnt seem to eat up enough altitude. Im afraid of doing a low 90 and even maintaing withdouble fronts and cutting someone off on their normal final.. Well there's a prerequisite to doing front riser turns down low, and that's doing straight-in approaches using double fronts down low. At your experience level (if 75 jumps is correct) you haven't yet made enough jumps to have mastered the basics of landing using only brake toggles (even if you are extraordinary canopy pilot material), so give it more time and at least double your # of jumps before even attempting a straight-in front riser approach. It's important to learn the basics first, and that does not mean learn how to land your canopy exactly where you want most of the time, but how to land it there every time, gracefully. Also by giving it more time before adding front riser input down low, you'll have that much more time to experiment with your risers up high (above 2k ft.), doing some drills: - double front riser dive, then flare - double front riser dive, see how long you can hold it, then flare. - double front riser dive, then let go of the front risers quickly and see what happens (no brake toggle input) - double front riser dive, then ease the front risers out slowly and see how this is different from above Have fun & don't rush anything Chris Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
