diablopilot 2 #26 May 19, 2004 QuoteWhen they fly canopies they know they will not land do they use a three canopy system as it is basically an intentional cutaway? Most of the time, yes. Or sometimes they wear a standard 2 canopy system with a second harness on underneath.---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The111 1 #27 May 24, 2004 QuoteOr sometimes they wear a standard 2 canopy system with a second harness on underneath. Umm, so if both canopies on the first harness mal, do they have to slip out of that harness so the "underneath" harness isn't covered up? Or am I missing something?www.WingsuitPhotos.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davelepka 4 #28 May 24, 2004 Canopy #1 (test canopy) is attached to the under harness. It's deployed via a static line or direct bag. When you're done with the test canopy, cut it away, and use the standard rig as normal. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 34 #29 May 27, 2004 Quote VX-39 Go Fast Athlete Luigi Cani to fly world's smallest parachute in World Record Attempt on May 12, 2004! Teammate J.C. Colclasure will be flying alongside with the helmet cam - video coming soon! reply] I remember the days when Charlie Mullins was considered THE top canopy pilot, or the most daring. He used to test-jump canopies for Precision Aerodynamics when they started making the Icarus Extremes. I haven't seen him in some time but he normally jumped an Extreme 69, but did get a 58 after much cajoling of Precision Aerodynamics' owner, and jumped it successfully. Now Luigi is pushing the bar even higher. Charlie, eat your heart out! Blue Skies Billy"Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mjasantos 0 #30 May 27, 2004 More stuff about the subject in here: QuoteNew World Record Set with World’s Fastest and Smallest Parachute Luigi Cani of Brazil safely jumps and lands unprecedented 39-square foot parachute DENVER, CO (May 14, 2004) – On May 12th, Luigi Cani, 30-year-old Go Fast-sponsored athlete set a new world record for jumping and landing the world’s smallest and fastest parachute. Flying at speeds near 100 miles per hour with the parachute open, Luigi is the first person ever to fly a parachute at a speed equal to someone in freefall. "Seeing the VX-39 for the first time was extremely scary," said Luigi Cani. "I knew it was going to be very small, but when we laid it out next to my regular parachute, it really put it all in perspective and I knew it was going to take a lot of determination to fly it all the way to the ground for a safe landing." The VX-39 parachute is about the same size as a sleeping bag - as opposed to the 300-square foot parachute, with which Luigi learned to skydive, and the standard high-performance parachute today, which is closer to 120 square feet. Two days of test flights, aerial maneuvers and helmet-cam video analysis to evaluate the speed and reaction of the parachute took place before the first ground-landing attempt. J.C. Colclasure, Luigi’s training and video partner for the project said, "Flying near and around Luigi while he was learning to fly the VX-39 was extremely intense. I’ve never seen a canopy fly that fast, and the thought of trying to land it was pretty daunting." "I give Luigi so much respect for handling the project professionally and for knowing that he was confident in his talent as one of the best canopy pilots in the world," he continued. The 3-day world record event was sponsored by Go Fast Sports & Beverage Co. and Perris Valley Skydiving, and showcased the evolution of the sport of parachuting - focusing on the technology applied in this high performance parachute prototype, and Luigi’s expert training in canopy piloting and arduous, safe landings. http://www.gofastsports.com/brand/parachute.html Blue Skies! ----------------------------- Mario Santos Portugal Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites alan 1 #31 May 27, 2004 QuoteDENVER, CO (May 14, 2004) – On May 12th, Luigi Cani, 30-year-old Go Fast-sponsored athlete set a new world record for jumping and landing the world’s smallest and fastest parachute. Flying at speeds near 100 miles per hour with the parachute open, Luigi is the first person ever to fly a parachute at a speed equal to someone in freefall. Skydiving Magazine and or Parachutist had an article with photos, I think sometime last year, of a Birdman either docked or nearly docked on a Velocity down in Florida. I think Vladi Pesa was one of the pilots.alan Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites johnny1488 1 #32 May 27, 2004 QuoteSkydiving Magazine and or Parachutist had an article with photos, I think sometime last year, of a Birdman either docked or nearly docked on a Velocity down in Florida. I think Vladi Pesa was one of the pilots. alan That was with an assload of weights and some heavy riser modification. Not to take anything away from jari and vladi, but birdman flight isnt exactly freefall either. Vladi wasnt going for top speed, he was going for the dock. Johnny --"This ain't no book club, we're all gonna die!" Mike Rome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Harksaw 0 #33 May 27, 2004 39 feet? Thats nothing. I heard an old-timer talk about how back in the 70s he was landing a 15 foot canopy all the time!__________________________________________________ I started skydiving for the money and the chicks. Oh, wait. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites NeedToJump 0 #34 May 27, 2004 QuoteVladi wasnt going for top speed That wasn't the goal of what he was doing, but I believe that his protrack recorded speeds of over 100 mph while under canopy (hook turning, not full flight)Wind Tunnel and Skydiving Coach http://www.ariperelman.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ManBird 0 #35 May 27, 2004 As I understand it, Jeb Corliss (in a wingsuit) docked with Luigi (under the 39) just recently."¯"`-._.-¯) ManBird (¯-._.-´"¯" Click Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites AlvaroCarvalho 0 #36 May 29, 2004 Way to Go!! Valeu pela determinação, Cani! Temos orgulho de você! Hey...ho...let's go! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites alan 1 #37 May 30, 2004 QuoteThat was with an assload of weights and some heavy riser modification. Yes, that information was included in the article I mentioned. I don't see how that changes the fact of the speeds that were reached and recorded under a parachute that was successfully landed. QuoteNot to take anything away from jari and vladi, but birdman flight isnt exactly freefall either. I agree. They do log it as "wingsuit time" I would guess for obvious reasons. I wonder, how does USPA or even the FAI regard it for logging purposes and records and awards and such? A good example of technology getting a little ahead of our "rules" or the definitions in them maybe?alan Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites gobbi 0 #38 May 31, 2004 QuoteAs I understand it, Jeb Corliss (in a wingsuit) docked with Luigi (under the 39) just recently. Fact. I saw it on tv yesterday. Cani made jumps with a 3-canopy system, he made 10 jumps without landing the 39. At the 11th jump he gained confidence and landed the vx39. Very smooth landing for what it is. They also showed him flying the canopy next to a guy in wingsuit for several seconds. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites johnny1488 1 #39 June 1, 2004 QuoteI don't see how that changes the fact of the speeds that were reached and recorded under a parachute that was successfully landed. Im also pretty sure he kept the weights but unhooked the riser modification before landing. But you're right, the speeds were reached under the canopy. Johnny --"This ain't no book club, we're all gonna die!" Mike Rome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites alan 1 #40 June 1, 2004 QuoteIm also pretty sure he kept the weights but unhooked the riser modification before landing. Yes, I seem to recall that information from the article as well. Riser trim is nothing new, it has been around for years. It is not exactly cheating or cause for an asterisk in a record book. It is normal to change the trim and then release it at any swoop comp. It is just more reliable and efficient to do it manually though, as opposed to using trim tabs. My point was that the newspaper report posted in this thread was not accurate when it stated that Cani was the first to achieve freefall speed under canopy. He hasn't done anything that Pesa didn't do.alan Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ManBird 0 #41 June 1, 2004 I know of several people that have been in three digits downwards while under canopy, loaded at around 3:1. But hell, it's the press. What do you expect?"¯"`-._.-¯) ManBird (¯-._.-´"¯" Click Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mjasantos 0 #42 June 4, 2004 Photos here: http://www.gofastsports.com/brand/parachute_g1.html Blue Skies! ----------------------------- Mario Santos Portugal Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites addicted 0 #43 June 5, 2004 strange they don't post any video from the event.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rhino 0 #44 June 5, 2004 Quotestrange they don't post any video from the event.. I appreciate even being able to see the pictures and share in the event.. What a bad ass accomplishment!!! Well done!!! Rhino Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Cacophony 0 #45 June 7, 2004 Quotestrange they don't post any video from the event.. Someone is probably holding a tight grip on the video for shock value when they release a video all about the event. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Remster 30 #46 June 7, 2004 QuotePhotos here: http://www.gofastsports.com/brand/parachute_g1.html Blue Skies! Pretty cool setup of a harness worn under his rig for the 39... Is that a commun setup for testjumps?Remster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites diablopilot 2 #47 June 7, 2004 Its a ground launch harness. No deployment system. I prefer a system that let's you freefall away from the aircraft first.---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites freekflyguy 0 #48 June 7, 2004 QuoteIts a ground launch harness. No deployment system. I prefer a system that let's you freefall away from the aircraft first. Agreed but with a canopy that small I'm sure you wouldnt want to pull after even a short delay. BuzzIt's nice to be important, but it's more important to be nice. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites diablopilot 2 #49 June 7, 2004 QuoteAgreed but with a canopy that small I'm sure you wouldnt want to pull after even a short delay. Why?---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Yoshi 0 #50 June 8, 2004 would it (because of the increased speed) be hard to control on opening? in a "hop and pop" the airspeed would be aroung 80-90mph right? wouldnt full terminal at approx 120 mph reselt in a snappier more unpredictable opening?_________________________________________ this space for rent. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 3 4 Next Page 2 of 4 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. 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mjasantos 0 #30 May 27, 2004 More stuff about the subject in here: QuoteNew World Record Set with World’s Fastest and Smallest Parachute Luigi Cani of Brazil safely jumps and lands unprecedented 39-square foot parachute DENVER, CO (May 14, 2004) – On May 12th, Luigi Cani, 30-year-old Go Fast-sponsored athlete set a new world record for jumping and landing the world’s smallest and fastest parachute. Flying at speeds near 100 miles per hour with the parachute open, Luigi is the first person ever to fly a parachute at a speed equal to someone in freefall. "Seeing the VX-39 for the first time was extremely scary," said Luigi Cani. "I knew it was going to be very small, but when we laid it out next to my regular parachute, it really put it all in perspective and I knew it was going to take a lot of determination to fly it all the way to the ground for a safe landing." The VX-39 parachute is about the same size as a sleeping bag - as opposed to the 300-square foot parachute, with which Luigi learned to skydive, and the standard high-performance parachute today, which is closer to 120 square feet. Two days of test flights, aerial maneuvers and helmet-cam video analysis to evaluate the speed and reaction of the parachute took place before the first ground-landing attempt. J.C. Colclasure, Luigi’s training and video partner for the project said, "Flying near and around Luigi while he was learning to fly the VX-39 was extremely intense. I’ve never seen a canopy fly that fast, and the thought of trying to land it was pretty daunting." "I give Luigi so much respect for handling the project professionally and for knowing that he was confident in his talent as one of the best canopy pilots in the world," he continued. The 3-day world record event was sponsored by Go Fast Sports & Beverage Co. and Perris Valley Skydiving, and showcased the evolution of the sport of parachuting - focusing on the technology applied in this high performance parachute prototype, and Luigi’s expert training in canopy piloting and arduous, safe landings. http://www.gofastsports.com/brand/parachute.html Blue Skies! ----------------------------- Mario Santos Portugal Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alan 1 #31 May 27, 2004 QuoteDENVER, CO (May 14, 2004) – On May 12th, Luigi Cani, 30-year-old Go Fast-sponsored athlete set a new world record for jumping and landing the world’s smallest and fastest parachute. Flying at speeds near 100 miles per hour with the parachute open, Luigi is the first person ever to fly a parachute at a speed equal to someone in freefall. Skydiving Magazine and or Parachutist had an article with photos, I think sometime last year, of a Birdman either docked or nearly docked on a Velocity down in Florida. I think Vladi Pesa was one of the pilots.alan Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
johnny1488 1 #32 May 27, 2004 QuoteSkydiving Magazine and or Parachutist had an article with photos, I think sometime last year, of a Birdman either docked or nearly docked on a Velocity down in Florida. I think Vladi Pesa was one of the pilots. alan That was with an assload of weights and some heavy riser modification. Not to take anything away from jari and vladi, but birdman flight isnt exactly freefall either. Vladi wasnt going for top speed, he was going for the dock. Johnny --"This ain't no book club, we're all gonna die!" Mike Rome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Harksaw 0 #33 May 27, 2004 39 feet? Thats nothing. I heard an old-timer talk about how back in the 70s he was landing a 15 foot canopy all the time!__________________________________________________ I started skydiving for the money and the chicks. Oh, wait. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NeedToJump 0 #34 May 27, 2004 QuoteVladi wasnt going for top speed That wasn't the goal of what he was doing, but I believe that his protrack recorded speeds of over 100 mph while under canopy (hook turning, not full flight)Wind Tunnel and Skydiving Coach http://www.ariperelman.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ManBird 0 #35 May 27, 2004 As I understand it, Jeb Corliss (in a wingsuit) docked with Luigi (under the 39) just recently."¯"`-._.-¯) ManBird (¯-._.-´"¯" Click Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AlvaroCarvalho 0 #36 May 29, 2004 Way to Go!! Valeu pela determinação, Cani! Temos orgulho de você! Hey...ho...let's go! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alan 1 #37 May 30, 2004 QuoteThat was with an assload of weights and some heavy riser modification. Yes, that information was included in the article I mentioned. I don't see how that changes the fact of the speeds that were reached and recorded under a parachute that was successfully landed. QuoteNot to take anything away from jari and vladi, but birdman flight isnt exactly freefall either. I agree. They do log it as "wingsuit time" I would guess for obvious reasons. I wonder, how does USPA or even the FAI regard it for logging purposes and records and awards and such? A good example of technology getting a little ahead of our "rules" or the definitions in them maybe?alan Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gobbi 0 #38 May 31, 2004 QuoteAs I understand it, Jeb Corliss (in a wingsuit) docked with Luigi (under the 39) just recently. Fact. I saw it on tv yesterday. Cani made jumps with a 3-canopy system, he made 10 jumps without landing the 39. At the 11th jump he gained confidence and landed the vx39. Very smooth landing for what it is. They also showed him flying the canopy next to a guy in wingsuit for several seconds. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
johnny1488 1 #39 June 1, 2004 QuoteI don't see how that changes the fact of the speeds that were reached and recorded under a parachute that was successfully landed. Im also pretty sure he kept the weights but unhooked the riser modification before landing. But you're right, the speeds were reached under the canopy. Johnny --"This ain't no book club, we're all gonna die!" Mike Rome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alan 1 #40 June 1, 2004 QuoteIm also pretty sure he kept the weights but unhooked the riser modification before landing. Yes, I seem to recall that information from the article as well. Riser trim is nothing new, it has been around for years. It is not exactly cheating or cause for an asterisk in a record book. It is normal to change the trim and then release it at any swoop comp. It is just more reliable and efficient to do it manually though, as opposed to using trim tabs. My point was that the newspaper report posted in this thread was not accurate when it stated that Cani was the first to achieve freefall speed under canopy. He hasn't done anything that Pesa didn't do.alan Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ManBird 0 #41 June 1, 2004 I know of several people that have been in three digits downwards while under canopy, loaded at around 3:1. But hell, it's the press. What do you expect?"¯"`-._.-¯) ManBird (¯-._.-´"¯" Click Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mjasantos 0 #42 June 4, 2004 Photos here: http://www.gofastsports.com/brand/parachute_g1.html Blue Skies! ----------------------------- Mario Santos Portugal Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
addicted 0 #43 June 5, 2004 strange they don't post any video from the event.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhino 0 #44 June 5, 2004 Quotestrange they don't post any video from the event.. I appreciate even being able to see the pictures and share in the event.. What a bad ass accomplishment!!! Well done!!! Rhino Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cacophony 0 #45 June 7, 2004 Quotestrange they don't post any video from the event.. Someone is probably holding a tight grip on the video for shock value when they release a video all about the event. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Remster 30 #46 June 7, 2004 QuotePhotos here: http://www.gofastsports.com/brand/parachute_g1.html Blue Skies! Pretty cool setup of a harness worn under his rig for the 39... Is that a commun setup for testjumps?Remster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #47 June 7, 2004 Its a ground launch harness. No deployment system. I prefer a system that let's you freefall away from the aircraft first.---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freekflyguy 0 #48 June 7, 2004 QuoteIts a ground launch harness. No deployment system. I prefer a system that let's you freefall away from the aircraft first. Agreed but with a canopy that small I'm sure you wouldnt want to pull after even a short delay. BuzzIt's nice to be important, but it's more important to be nice. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #49 June 7, 2004 QuoteAgreed but with a canopy that small I'm sure you wouldnt want to pull after even a short delay. Why?---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yoshi 0 #50 June 8, 2004 would it (because of the increased speed) be hard to control on opening? in a "hop and pop" the airspeed would be aroung 80-90mph right? wouldnt full terminal at approx 120 mph reselt in a snappier more unpredictable opening?_________________________________________ this space for rent. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
