Atair Radical

[garywainwright 0]

Has anyone else jumped or heard of this? I put about 10 jumps on a 95 a few weeks ago and really liked it - it was very Katana ish.
Its not X braced or airlocked - the only different thing to look at is the end cells are split into 3 rather than 2. Also i think it had vectran lines.
The guy who lent it me couldn't tell me much about it (he actually thought he had an Onyx!)
Its the smallest non X braced i've jumped and was very nice at a 2.35 loading, lovely openings, light fronts with heavy ish rears.
I tried contacting Atair but they haven't got back to me.

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[KidWicked 0]

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the only different thing to look at is the end cells are split into 3 rather than 2.

Is this for heading performance on opening perhaps?

Has any manufacturer every played with cross-bracing certain cells? Any BASE manufacturer perhaps? I'm just thinking out loud here.

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[AggieDave 6]

Icarus had something they called the GX that had the middle three cells crossbraced and non-x-braced on the others (if I remember correctly).

From what I remember, it didn't fly quite like they thought it would and found it to be pointless.

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[ManBird 0]

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Has any manufacturer every played with cross-bracing certain cells? Any BASE manufacturer perhaps?

With BASE canopies, making something flies with a lot of rigidity/performance (X-brace, airlocks, etc) is a bad idea. If the canopy inflates unevenly, the inflated side will start flying fast -- offheading. My ongoing joke about this, "hey, at least it will stay inflated through the object strike."

Fast, consistent, symmetrical openings are, IMO, the #1 thing I want out of a BASE canopy.

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[Canuck 0]

Interesting that they would line this canopy with Vectran but still use Spectra on the Onyx - backwards if you ask me.

Years and years ago Chute shop made a canopy called the Reflex that had end cells split into three rather than two. Not sure what the design reasons are.

Canuck

[KidWicked 0]

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Has any manufacturer every played with cross-bracing certain cells? Any BASE manufacturer perhaps?

With BASE canopies, making something flies with a lot of rigidity/performance (X-brace, airlocks, etc) is a bad idea. If the canopy inflates unevenly, the inflated side will start flying fast -- offheading. My ongoing joke about this, "hey, at least it will stay inflated through the object strike."

Fast, consistent, symmetrical openings are, IMO, the #1 thing I want out of a BASE canopy.

I was thinking more in terms of cross-bracing the center cells to promote more symmetric inflation somehow, rather than the end cells.

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[ManBird 0]

Ah, gotcha. Don't know how that'd do.

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[grega 0]

Well i have a few jumps on it
I don't think radical has vectran lines. They're spectra unless this one you tried is different. Well at least on mine are spectra and on other one that i tried. that's that radical 120, white with blue endcells, that was sent to your part of the world. IT has spectra lines, i don't know about the 95 though.

Apart from that endcells that are split into 3 the main difference is in the airfoil shape. But it's top secret so that's all i can say

Maybe you should contact the right Atair, the one that designed these canopies (Atair from Slovenia). They're building new web page but curently you can contact them at atair@k2.net

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[garywainwright 0]

It didn't look like Spectra. It had that yellowish tinge that vectran / HMA has.
I think the old Blue tracks split the outer cells into 3.
Anyway it was great fun to fly with lovely openings!

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[daveom 0]

My PdF Merit also has the end cells split into three...

Dave

[ph8068 0]

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My PdF Merit also has the end cells split into three...

You sure? The Merit brakelines are split into 3 rather than 4. This is the case with most PdF canopies. Is this what are you getting confused with perhaps?

[johnny1488 1]

I dont know what they expected, but Jim told me it was super fast, and he is currently using a few of them for ground launching out in CA.

Johnny
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[AggieDave 6]

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I dont know what they expected, but Jim told me it was super fast, and he is currently using a few of them for ground launching out in CA

Cool, thanks for the update.

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[daveom 0]

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My PdF Merit also has the end cells split into three...

You sure? The Merit brakelines are split into 3 rather than 4. This is the case with most PdF canopies. Is this what are you getting confused with perhaps?

I know the brake lines only cascade into three, but I'm 99% sure the end cells are split into three also... I'll verify next time I pack!

I can't find any decent online photos.

Dave