diablopilot 2 #51 September 9, 2004 You know......you're annoying.---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steel 0 #52 September 9, 2004 Quote You know......you're annoying. Thanks for proving my point that you can't fire back because you see you're wrong. As I always say, there is nothing wrong with making a mistake. Its when you insist that your really correct and don't learn from it, that you have a problem. cheersIf I could make a wish, I think I'd pass. Can't think of anything I need No cigarettes, no sleep, no light, no sound. Nothing to eat, no books to read. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #53 September 9, 2004 Naw, I'm not wrong. you're anoying, and you won't listen to anything anyone has to say. Have fun with your ego.---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ianmdrennan 2 #54 September 9, 2004 Quote Its when you insist that your really correct and don't learn from it, that you have a problem. People in glass houses.....Performance Designs Factory Team Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
grega 0 #55 September 9, 2004 Quote Anybody who can fly & land at over a 4.0 wingloading can easily accomplish this task. I for one have flown and landed fast enough to do this hundreds of times and had been doing it for more than a year before the 39 made its debut. Well hmm, i'm tryin to be a smartass, but wingloading 4.0 on 39 or 4.0 on 85 for example is definitely not the same. The body (pilot) on 39 produces so much more drag comparing to the lift than on the 85 that's it's way harder to land (i'd assume). not to mention the lenght of the lines....."George just lucky i guess!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jethers203 0 #56 September 9, 2004 So anyway, back to the topic. Does anyone else have video of JC's swoop??? Clint D-24352 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steel 0 #57 September 9, 2004 Quote Quote Anybody who can fly & land at over a 4.0 wingloading can easily accomplish this task. I for one have flown and landed fast enough to do this hundreds of times and had been doing it for more than a year before the 39 made its debut. Well hmm, i'm tryin to be a smartass, but wingloading 4.0 on 39 or 4.0 on 85 for example is definitely not the same. The body (pilot) on 39 produces so much more drag comparing to the lift than on the 85 that's it's way harder to land (i'd assume). not to mention the lenght of the lines..... This is absolutely true and I don't in anyway deny it, although for accuracy we can say that I am on a 55 not an 85. But never the less the same holds true. When you weigh between 200 and 220 (depending on wether your bulking or cutting @ the time) you really don't have a choice. If I jumped the 39 with *no* weights I would be near 6 to 1. I don't even know if its possible to land @ 6 to 1. However I do know, I don't feel compelled to try that at this point. But I am not complaining, if and when I buy a canopy ideal for distance and have my try at that, I won't have to be strapping 50 pounds to myself like Cani does.If I could make a wish, I think I'd pass. Can't think of anything I need No cigarettes, no sleep, no light, no sound. Nothing to eat, no books to read. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
grega 0 #58 September 9, 2004 cool so we both agree Yeah what's with the JC Swooping video?"George just lucky i guess!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dragon2 2 #59 September 9, 2004 maybe... working on it....... just maybe...... got a pic of the swooop tho! pic by Matthijs Hardeman. ciel bleu, Saskia Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steel 0 #60 September 9, 2004 Quote maybe... working on it....... just maybe...... got a pic of the swooop tho! pic by Matthijs Hardeman. He is not using the RDS. I thought everybody was using it already. Whats up with that?If I could make a wish, I think I'd pass. Can't think of anything I need No cigarettes, no sleep, no light, no sound. Nothing to eat, no books to read. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chileanXaos 0 #61 September 9, 2004 Does someone knows what wingloading was he flying. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Canuck 0 #62 September 9, 2004 Good observation. I too am suprised that he is not using the RDS. Also, take note of the direction the windblade and the yellow flag are pointing - deffinately more crosswind than downwind. Kick-ass swoop. Canuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steel 0 #63 September 9, 2004 Quote Good observation. I too am suprised that he is not using the RDS. Also, take note of the direction the windblade and the yellow flag are pointing - deffinately more crosswind than downwind. Kick-ass swoop. Canuck actually that would probably suggest that he could have swooped even further if he was using an RDS system.If I could make a wish, I think I'd pass. Can't think of anything I need No cigarettes, no sleep, no light, no sound. Nothing to eat, no books to read. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aarco 0 #64 September 9, 2004 How big is your canopy in the pic - and what was your weight? Having something never beats doing (>|<) Iam building things - Iam working on my mind- I am going to change this world - its what I came here 4- - - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkymonkeyONE 4 #65 September 9, 2004 It would take far too long for me to cut the crap out of this thread, so anyone interested in continuing any Luis Cani/Bruno Rodriguez comparisons, please take them to another thread. Seriously, Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ParaShoot 0 #66 September 9, 2004 Quote Good observation. It was already mentioned in my message. Quote Also, take note of the direction the windblade and the yellow flag are pointing - deffinately more crosswind than downwind. Kick-ass swoop. About 50 ft after the entry gates we got behind the trees so hardly any downwind effect. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aarco 0 #67 September 10, 2004 Any landing that fare is just a hell of a thing. I wish I could have seen it - That JC did it does not surprise me. Having something never beats doing (>|<) Iam building things - Iam working on my mind- I am going to change this world - its what I came here 4- - - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
johnny1488 1 #68 September 10, 2004 Im happy JC set a new record, good for him! But maybe we could start measuring other parts of the swoop. I saw this one guy come to my dz this year, he was jumping this super small canopy, but his tumbling cartwheel was sooo much longer than his swoop! He then got spoken too by some of the better swoopers on the dz, claimed they didnt know what they were talking about, then got in his car and never came back. Im just saying maybe it does take skill to blast yourself halfway across the dz. Johnny --"This ain't no book club, we're all gonna die!" Mike Rome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YM4 0 #69 September 10, 2004 Im kinda late here, Ive been to busy. One of my friends call me today and told me to check out this thread. WHY? Because tham man was in tha house! STEEL. Canuck, you dont know what you are talking about. Steel is number one in one thing. Bull$#¡ting He talks so much BULL$#¡T that no one can beat him there. Aint that true"It's not the size of the dog in the fight, It's the size of the fight in the dog!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerm 0 #70 September 10, 2004 Quote Im happy JC set a new record, good for him! But maybe we could start measuring other parts of the swoop. I saw this one guy come to my dz this year, he was jumping this super small canopy, but his tumbling cartwheel was sooo much longer than his swoop! He then got spoken too by some of the better swoopers on the dz, claimed they didnt know what they were talking about, then got in his car and never came back. Im just saying maybe it does take skill to blast yourself halfway across the dz. oh yeah, i remember him.. wasn't he jumping a 55? some of the worst canopy piloting i've seen someone walk away from... lucky SOB anyone know who that was?? Landing without injury is not necessarily evidence that you didn't fuck up... it just means you got away with it this time Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yoink 321 #71 September 10, 2004 Quote Im kinda late here, Ive been to busy. One of my friends call me today and told me to check out this thread.... yawn... Props to JC... Now where's the video!?? C'mon.... Someone must have videoed it! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
txblondie 0 #72 September 10, 2004 Quote Im happy JC set a new record, good for him! But maybe we could start measuring other parts of the swoop. I saw this one guy come to my dz this year, he was jumping this super small canopy, but his tumbling cartwheel was sooo much longer than his swoop! He then got spoken too by some of the better swoopers on the dz, claimed they didnt know what they were talking about, then got in his car and never came back. Im just saying maybe it does take skill to blast yourself halfway across the dz. Got in his car and never came back? He was on a one-week trip to New York, he lives in Dallas. He learned to jump at the Ranch, so he has no problem with it, except that it's a mighty long drive from Dallas every weekend to jump there. Besides, I was there, and that was the second jump he made there; his first was beautiful. On the second jump, the wind socks were in conflict, and the direction he chose to land had an upslope; the 55 doesn't have the lift to pull up out of that, so of course it made for a bit of a bad landing. You might have a problem, too, if it wasn't your regular drop zone and your canopy didn't have the lift it needed to pull out of a bad situation. ***************************************** Blondes do have more fun! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ianmdrennan 2 #73 September 10, 2004 Quote You might have a problem, too, if it wasn't your regular drop zone and your canopy didn't have the lift it needed to pull out of a bad situation. Bad example. 1) If you have to be at your home dropzone to be in a comfort zone you're in over your head, period. 2) If you're incapable of landing your canopy safely when things don't always go 100% as expected you're in over your head, period. The above applies to anyone, on any canopy. Blues, IanPerformance Designs Factory Team Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davelepka 4 #74 September 10, 2004 ***he chose to land had an upslope; the 55 doesn't have the lift to pull up out of that, He learned to jump at the Ranch ==================================== Why choose to land on the upslope then? He learned there, he knows the landing area, and he flew himself into an upslope. Good thinking. Gald his canopy choice gives him some room for error. More good thinking. I wonder if that Brazilian guy jumps his 39 on every jump, or if he realizes the limitations of that high of a W/L and only jumps it under controlled conditions (and on flat landing areas). That would be some actual good thinking. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
txblondie 0 #75 September 10, 2004 Quote ***he chose to land had an upslope; the 55 doesn't have the lift to pull up out of that, He learned to jump at the Ranch ==================================== Why choose to land on the upslope then? He learned there, he knows the landing area, and he flew himself into an upslope. Good thinking. Well, before you decide to criticize (based on one jump), it's been years since he jumped there, AND the first thing he said to me when he came back in was that he'd made the wrong decision. Everyone makes a wrong decision sometimes, and not everyone gets beat up for it on a public forum. Big deal. One bad landing, and not even a scrape to show for it. Hasn't everyone had a bad landing at some point? ***************************************** Blondes do have more fun! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
