superstu 0 #26 February 10, 2005 i also heard, and this is completely second hand, that the trim is different as well, but i don't know for sure.Slip Stream Air Sports Do not go softly, do not go quietly, never back down Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skygod7777 0 #27 February 10, 2005 Quotei also heard, and this is completely second hand, that the trim is different as well, but i don't know for sure. different from what?? later Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davelepka 4 #28 February 10, 2005 Quotewingloading at 2.5 Do you know how much of that was lead? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
superstu 0 #29 February 10, 2005 I heard that the Velocity that the PD factory guys have has a different line trim then the stock trim that is sold to everyone else. but again this is what i heard and don't know if it's true what's so ever.Slip Stream Air Sports Do not go softly, do not go quietly, never back down Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Paige 0 #30 February 10, 2005 That's awesome. Congrats to everyone at PD and Jonathan T esp. Tunnel Pink Mafia Delegate www.TunnelPinkMafia.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GravityGirl 0 #31 February 11, 2005 Quote479.666 feet (146.24m). Woah! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Peace and Blue Skies! Bonnie ==>Gravity Gear! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkymonkeyONE 4 #32 February 11, 2005 That distance is simply amazing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
johnny1488 1 #33 February 11, 2005 I took a quick look at the numbers last night, and there are a lot of jumpers who are breaking the previous record! Like the 4 minute mile, once someone did it, it wasnt a barrier anymore and everyone beating it became the standard. Cool stuff. Johnny --"This ain't no book club, we're all gonna die!" Mike Rome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nicknitro71 0 #34 February 11, 2005 QuoteThat distance is simply amazing Especially @ 2.5!Memento Audere Semper 903 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkymonkeyONE 4 #35 February 11, 2005 I have serious doubts about the 2.5 quote. 2.05 is the "standard" factory team wingload for distance. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davelepka 4 #36 February 11, 2005 QuoteI have serious doubts about the 2.5 quote. 2.05 is the "standard" factory team wingload for distance. Me too. I've never met him, but I spoke with a guy who has, and he says that Jonathan is 155 or 160 ish. He would have to be wearing 45 or 50 lbs. of lead to pull that WL. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kolla 0 #37 February 11, 2005 It could be wrong, I got that info from Kevin, but perhaps someone on site can verify it.Blue Skies Magazine Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skygod7777 0 #38 February 11, 2005 QuoteI have serious doubts about the 2.5 quote. 2.05 is the "standard" factory team wingload for distance. that would make sense, or on the key pad the 2 is right under the 5, so maybe 2.2?? 2.5 would be a lot for a velocity, they don't seam to handle the weight like a vx does (in my opinion). later Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkymonkeyONE 4 #39 February 11, 2005 A better bet is that he may have jumped a 90 loaded at 2.5 for the Speed rounds. Luis Cani wore 50 pounds of lead for Speed at Wildwood. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Canuck 0 #40 February 11, 2005 Ah c'mon Chuckie - you're just pissed now that you gave back your 75 a couple years ago. Seriously, it must be a mistake - nobody goes that kind of distance at that high of a wingloading. Canuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Casurf1978 0 #41 February 11, 2005 QuoteA better bet is that he may have jumped a 90 loaded at 2.5 for the Speed rounds. Luis Cani wore 50 pounds of lead for Speed at Wildwood. What's a speed round? Also what speed are these pilots hitting? Just curious. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Canuck 0 #42 February 11, 2005 Speed rounds invlove the pilots entering through a 5 ft gate and navigating a 180 ft course that is curved at 30 degrees (I think) and exiting out another set of gates as fast as they can. How fast? Well, a few had sub 3 second runs, most are between 3 and 4 seconds, so do the math. Canuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
johnny1488 1 #43 February 11, 2005 Hey Kolla I was at Sonic and Donna's last night while she had Bobo on spaeker phone and he definetly said 2.5. He said they hav been messing with some really high wingloadings. They werent the only ones beefing up. I believe JC and a few others went way up in loading this meet. He said it has to do with the slingshot power aroundthe corner that was doing it, but who knows. Johnny --"This ain't no book club, we're all gonna die!" Mike Rome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
superstu 0 #44 February 11, 2005 Damn, i need some coaching!Slip Stream Air Sports Do not go softly, do not go quietly, never back down Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Canuck 0 #45 February 11, 2005 I noticed in the pictures of Tagle taken right after the distance run (posted on the LW website) that there is a weight vest and and weight belt sitting on the ground beside him and his discarded rig - so he deffinately was weighted up a little anyway. Man, this could change everything. I was kidding earlier when I said everybody would start downsizing again... Canuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ianmdrennan 2 #46 February 11, 2005 QuoteHe said they hav been messing with some really high wingloadings. Interesting. It apparently works though cause there were more than just Tagel up there with sick distances. It'll be interesting to hear the science behind it all. I'd have thought that loaded that high it'd want to shut down really quickly. Blues, IanPerformance Designs Factory Team Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkymonkeyONE 4 #47 February 11, 2005 If that is in fact what happened, then it's a veritible 180 degree change from what people flew all last year and the year before. Just for discussion's sake I would just like to say that the distance runs on my 2.4 (without lead) loaded Velo 75 were about 40 feet on average shorter than they were under my 2.23 loaded 79. It was a much faster canopy in general flight and certainly when weighted up for four-way, but it fell off quite dramatically at the end of the swoop. Tagle weighs about 160. If he was in fact loading a 90 at 2.5 then he was wearing 40 pounds of lead, or very close to it. I can't wait to hear the complete details. Fascinating. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkymonkeyONE 4 #48 February 12, 2005 I just looked at the photos on the Lake Wales site. Tagle does have both a weight vest and weight belt sitting next to his rig. His slider is in fact off, but his deployment system is still attached to the top of the canopy, and the canopy does look small enough to be a 90. I stand totally corrected from my previous hypothesis! All I can say is "wow." I had a talk with Jonathan at the Wildwood PST meet last summer and told him that it was definitely his year. He had trained hard, travelled to a lot of meets, and done very, very well in them. I had no idea he was joining "Blue" at the time, nor do I think he had any idea. This is just great. Way to go, Jonathan! Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
superstu 0 #49 February 12, 2005 Hey chuck have you tried loading up your 79 to the same as your 74 and seen any results? just kinda wondering.Slip Stream Air Sports Do not go softly, do not go quietly, never back down Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #50 February 12, 2005 The guys in SoCal (including JT) were training latley with ALOT of lead.---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
