superstu 0 #1 June 23, 2005 Just curious to see at what WLing people started to work on "speed inducing" landings or swooping? i would define speed induced landings as something you do to PURPOSELY create more speed with your canopy for landing (ie front riser turns, double fronts, toggle turns, rear riser turns, harness turn, ect.) For me it was 1.2 on a stiletto 150Slip Stream Air Sports Do not go softly, do not go quietly, never back down Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brains 2 #2 June 23, 2005 Sabre 170 for me and around 150 jumps i started with some small riser turns Never look down on someone, unless they are going down on you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vdschoor 0 #3 June 23, 2005 For me it was 1.5 on a Sabre2 150 at about 400 jumps. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fast 0 #4 June 23, 2005 1.3 on a S2 170.... In progress. I am doing 180s these days. 95% of the jumps I have are on this canopy so I figured it would be a good start. I want to get something a little zippier but not till I am consistant at doing 270s on this one. That won't be till late this year or the begining of next. (Just based on how many jumps I am doing a month and how many I want to stay doing 180s for / figure it will take for me to understand them) Its not awesome but its fun for me.~D Where troubles melt like lemon drops Away above the chimney tops That's where you'll find me. Swooping is taking one last poke at the bear before escaping it's cave - davelepka Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tcnelson 1 #5 June 23, 2005 1.24 on a sabre2 170. i've learned a ton on it and it's performance potential is still huge. i'll be flying it for many more jumps. the only thing that seems to be different on it than on higher performance canopies/WL's is the fact that its recovery arc is shorter."Don't talk to me like that assface...I don't work for you yet." - Fletch NBFT, Deseoso Rodriguez RB#1329 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflyn 0 #6 June 23, 2005 Stiletto 150 at 1.2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanuckInUSA 0 #7 June 23, 2005 Started doing double fronts as some bizarro way to lose extra altitude to not overshoot my targets on a Triathlon 220 (loaded at 1.0). Started doing 90s on a Sabre2 190 (loaded at 1.2) at about 175 jumps after/during a canopy coaching course. Oh and this was all at altitude. I wasn't supposed to be a swooper. Where did I go wrong? Try not to worry about the things you have no control over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skygod7777 0 #8 June 24, 2005 like .73 on a skymaster 230 double fronts, or a little 45........hey my mom wouldn't let me jump anything smaller later Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Canuck 0 #9 June 24, 2005 Less than 1 to 1 under my ol' trusty Maverick. With a strong double front riser approach (and once I put a collapsable PC on it) I could actually make that puppy climb! I really learned how to swoop under a Blade Runner 150 though, loaded about 1.3. Canuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LearningTOfly 0 #10 June 24, 2005 Sabre at about 1:1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
indyz 1 #11 June 24, 2005 Triathlon 160 loaded at aout 1.25:1 with about 300 jumps. Still jhave the same canopy, still doing 90s. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Peej 0 #12 June 24, 2005 I started double fronts on a Hornet 170 loaded at 1.2 at around 80 jumps i guess. After doing that i progressed to 90's and am now doing 180's. Advertisio Rodriguez / Sky Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tonto 1 #13 June 24, 2005 A Cruiselite 220 sq ft, F-111 seven cell, because at the time, it was a high aspect ratio, high performance canopy relative to the 5 cell Viking Superlite. I think I was loaded to about 0.8 and the margin for error was slim as the recovery arc was very similar to the line length. From there to a Nimbus (9 cell 220 sq ft) Then a Coe-D 210 (PD-210) Then a PD 170 Then Perigrine 150 (Excalibur copy) Then Jonathan 120 Then Stilleto 107 and that's where I am now, after 20 years and 4600 dives... No hurry... tIt's the year of the Pig. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rookie120 0 #14 June 24, 2005 Sabre 150 at about 1.2 Started with double fronts then slow carving 45's then 90's and so on. But my first swoop was by accident with about 60 jumps and scaring the hell out of myself!If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dharma1976 0 #15 June 24, 2005 sabre2 170 started with double fronts worked through 180s and then moved to the 150 sabre2 as the riser pressure got a little extreme as I lost weight... Cheers Davehttp://www.skyjunky.com CSpenceFLY - I can't believe the number of people willing to bet their life on someone else doing the right thing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
outlawphx 1 #16 June 24, 2005 1.3 on a Nova 150. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob.dino 1 #17 June 25, 2005 1.05 on a Spectre 190 at 350 jumps. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
el_chester 4 #18 June 25, 2005 1.5 on a Stiletto 135 @ 220 jumps (my 1st canopy which I bought after coming back to the sport and doing 60 jumps in 2 months on a borrowed sabre 150) My ignorance put me there. The fact that I'm alive and unharmed is I guess mostly luck that I only once was in a situation that left me few options or little time (picture attached) and even then I didn't get hurt. Haven't changed WL yet and don't plan to for a long time, although I moved to a Pilot 132 which I love. Currently doing slow 90s when traffic permits. The attached picture shows the only close call I had not many jumps after getting the stiletto. First I slightly hit the ground with my knees during the flare. It was not a corner thing, I just misjudged the length of my legs . We were all landing in a slight downwind, I was going fast (by my standards), so when I brushed the ground with my knees I freaked out by the sudden involuntary balance shift and stopped flying the canopy correctly and you can see how the wing is not helping my landing... this wrong reaction was the result of my lack of proper skills to handle a surprise. For those looking to be aggressive, be careful. You will most likely eventually screw up, and if your skills arent up there yet, only luck will keep you unharmed then. -- Be careful giving advice. Wise men don't need it, and fools won't heed it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rwieder 0 #19 June 25, 2005 OUCH! 1.3:1 on a Hornet 170 (damned good canopy)-Richard- "You're Holding The Rope And I'm Taking The Fall" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkydiveNFlorida 0 #20 June 27, 2005 1:1 on Stiletto 150 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhino 0 #21 June 28, 2005 Crossfire 103 (with mod) didn't like the heavy front riser pressure. very shortly after that I moved to the Crossfire2 97.. Pretty much the sole canopy I have learned on and swooped since.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sabre1Lucke 0 #22 June 29, 2005 Sabre 150 loaded at 1.32 for me and now I'm on a Sabre 135 loaded at 1.46. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maxx 1 #23 June 29, 2005 1.3 on a stiletto 150 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rain-man 0 #24 June 29, 2005 1.8 on a 119 crossfire2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
matt91078 0 #25 June 30, 2005 Sabre2 170 1.27 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites