Rain-man 0
Grasshopper. Did you kick Ian's butt?
But sreiously it is suprising how many bust up their approaches into the gates due to over-excitement in pulling off hard core turning approaches..only to be too steep or just too high. All turning approaches supposedly end in straight-in, high - speed, smooth and preferably shallow entries into the gates. Rehearsing double fronts..is rehersing the most important aspect of the swoop. Deep diving requires some skill and some judgement but has a large element of muscle and guts in it..and the shallow rounded entry turns all this energy into a useful swoop.
You are on top of your game and the results show it.
Grasshopper. Did you kick Ian's butt?
Not yet, but I'm expecting it to happen sometime soon
You are on top of your game and the results show it.
Yeap, she's been a wonderful student (which is odd because normally couples coaching each other can lead to interesting results ). I cannot wait to see her realize her full potential. I also love the fact that when she does she'll be (I believe) a shining example on the RIGHT WAY to go about doing it all.
Blues,
Ian
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Rehearsing double fronts..is rehersing the most important aspect of the swoop.
what do you mean by this?
Deep diving requires some skill and some judgement but has a large element of muscle and guts in it.
and this.
..and the shallow rounded entry turns all this energy into a useful swoop.
and this.
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what do you mean by this?
If i allow you to equate swooping to a rock skimming off water. Thats pretty much what you want to do. The intension is to have a shallow glide when you arrive at the threshold. The best way to start learning for this is to start off utilising double front riser approaches. It allows you to hone in your gate entry technique in an effficient way so that you have applied speed to your canopy, relieved the dive smoothly and entered the gate with grace like the rock skimming off the water. It takes away the added complexity of a heading change that turning approaches provide. Once you have this sussed out its cool because even when you progress to turning approaches..the turn ends with you facing the gates on heading ...seeking a straight-in, smooth, shallow entry. (back to square one only with perhaps more energy).
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and this.
Like i said above. Turning approaches are more complex because amongst other things they result in a change of heading as well as an increase in speed. Those who have skipped developing their heading control at the double front riser approach stage may find that they lack a bit on the heading control front and risk ending up being rudder-less missiles. Yeah sure you can pull a 270 hook..but can you drive through those gates? I have seen a few people bust like this. They would have been better off doing double fronts.
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and this.
The manner in which one transitions into level flight is very critical to a swoop and excelling at this increases the chances of maximizing distance yes or no? If the entry is not nice, round and smooth then you need to make adjustments which will work against your swoop. Abrupt changes in the pitch result in a high angle of attack..which kills airspeed oh well..and there goes your swoop. Best practice should be a transition that involves minimum angle of attack over a relatively long period of time.
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but there is no way in hell your jump numbers is correct. unless you have had ALOT of schooling.
The manner in which one transitions into level flight is very critical to a swoop and excelling at this increases the chances of maximizing distance yes or no? If the entry is not nice, round and smooth then you need to make adjustments which will work against your swoop. Abrupt changes in the pitch result in a high angle of attack..which kills airspeed oh well..and there goes your swoop. Best practice should be a transition that involves minimum angle of attack over a relatively long period of time.
i do have somthing to say about this though. i used to be a STRONG believer in this. but depending on the tyupe of canopy, giving an abrupt change to an angle of attack is not always the wrong thing, if you di it correctly the results will be HUGE. this is after you have completed your turn and are on heading to the gates, but just slightly low. noty too low for toggles, but not high enough that your canopy is loosing speed while it is still in its dive. at just the right moment when it is at the end of the acceleration, you accellerate it more by abruptly changing the angle of attack with the rear risers, if done in the very small window you have to do it, it will send you far and fast...
Rain-man 0
but there is no way in hell your jump numbers is correct. unless you have had ALOT of schooling.
its amazing how much you can learn from the forums during work
With regards to pitch changes i meant with brakes not rear risers. Brakes bring your body back under your canopy when the dive has carried on for too long and involves distorting the back of the wing increasing drag. This is a swoop killer (well an efficient swoop killer) but essentially a bail out manoevre.
Like you say rears can get some heavy duty distance onto your swoop i guess because using them results in moving the C.O.G further aft meaning the pilot can increase the angle of attack of the wing without significantly increasing the drag of the system. (beware of high speed stalls here)
Maybe safe to say that
1) Rear risers help the swoop
2) Brakes kills the swoop
3) Use rear risers when everything is perfect
4) Use brakes when you are fucked.
IMHO
chachi 0
"Its not about how much weight you can wear, its how you fly your canopy. The only guys wearing a ton'o'weight and having any kind of success are already top ranked pilots who are looking to try and push the envelope and increase there scores buy a fractional amount. First learn to fly well, then learn to fly great, then learn to fly exceptionaly awsome, then use weights as a stratagy to compete for top position. You can trust me on this one, its not about how much weight you wear, its about how you fly your canopy. P.S. I competed most all of last season at a wing loading under 2.1 (wearin no weight)
Fly-Free!! JAY"
- get coaching
- do high pulls
- start ground launching
- get accurate
you need to have a plan of success. you need to slightly push yourself and also learn your limitations. i got serious, got accurate, and got a wing designed for swooping. i do not think all canopies are the best to learn to swoop on and you should be jumping something with that in mind. i also think local competitions are awesome. CPC over here will improve me tremendously and even though i am new to my canopy and finished 7th in the CP here i also learned soooo much.
Beverly 1
We just don't have any competitions here, so you practice with yourself.
Also at a DZ 5000 ft ASL inland and hot.
I just wear weights for my normal jumping, so need to becareful.
Cheers
Bev
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Peej 0
That way you can ask Tonto and Beasley to go over them later.
IMO this is one of the best ways to get advice.
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Well now that you put it that way, I suppose I can help my coaches out a bit....
But swooping does not hurt my knees as much!
Yet.......
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