jfields 0 #1 December 4, 2002 It looks like I'm going to be ordering a new suit. I worked my way through most of the options with them on the phone. There are a few she couldn't help me with, so I'm asking you.... Inseam Grips... Good? Bad? Worth it or not? It is only $10, so if I may want them, I should do it now. I'm not going to be on any competitive teams or anything. Swoop Cords... They have two kinds. One is tie-in, and the other is a continuous one that runs from one hand, through the body, out to the other hand. Which do you folks have? Pros, cons, etc? I fall like a rock, so specific info from any other fastfallers would be great. Any other advice, other than to double-check all the measurements? Thanks! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyboyblue 0 #2 December 4, 2002 I don't have inseam grips, although I've jumped my RW suit twice the past season. I guess it depends on how hard core you are. look around your dz. If a lot of people who'll you'll be jumping around have them, chances are they turn formations using them at some point. might be handy for you too then. that continuous swoop cord thing is supposed to be handy if you need some wing under one arm and not the other. just my .02 sbb Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sonic 0 #3 December 4, 2002 Might as well get them (inside grips that is). Better to have them and not use them then to not have them and wish you did.----------------------------------- It's like something out of that twilighty show about that zone Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skybytch 273 #4 December 4, 2002 Inseam grips - it's only $10, go for it. They aren't really for you anyway; they make it easier for others to dock on you in certain formations. Plus they make you look like a hardcore RW god, that's got to be a good thing. Have someone else measure you!! Can't emphasize that one enough. Best if the person measuring you is a dealer for the jumpsuit company, next best is a tailor/seamstress, next best is someone with some sewing and measuring tape experience. Follow the manufacturer's measuring instructions exactly. And, yes, do double check each measurement - if the person measuring you has never done it before you may want to do each one three times... just to be sure. I've never used swoop cords so I can't answer that question. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tigra 0 #5 December 4, 2002 Yes for the inside grippers, and go for the fatter grippers as well. Makes it easier for other people to dock on you! Remember, the grippers may be on your suit, but they aren't for you! As for the swoops, the continuous cord with an inside channel with spandex wing are the best option. I've had both types and will never go back to the "tie in" style. The continuous cord makes the swoops much easier to adjust, and they adjust symetrically. And yes, have someone else measure, preferably a dealer or if you are especially lucky, the person making your suit!! maura Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Watcher 0 #6 December 5, 2002 Inside grippers very very good. Need them on many exits, and formations. Plus you make sounds while walking to the plane Get Big huge grippers too, should be atleast 1in diameters, those 1/4 inch diameter grippers that alot of suits have are terrible (and rip alot during exits and Block/Piece moves). Jonathan Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sunshine 2 #7 December 5, 2002 Get the inside grippers. If you don't you'll only save $10, big deal. And definately have someone else measure you. It's pretty impossible for you to measure yourself correctly cause you have to contort your body. It would really suck to have a brand new suit that didn't fit. ___________________________________________ meow I get a Mike hug! I get a Mike hug! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,106 #8 December 5, 2002 Get the inside grippers, then you'll walk funny like all the serious skygods. Swoop cords: IMHO the most important thing is whether the armpit area is stretchy (or baggy) enough to give some wing when the cord is tight. How the cord attaches is secondary.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tigra 0 #9 December 6, 2002 Justin, Keep in mind John's a featherweight when considering swoop chords. And talk to people at your dz, maybe see if someone has the channel type with the spandex wing. It is a superior design and much easier to adjust! maura Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jfields 0 #10 December 6, 2002 Thanks for all the great feedback, folks! It seems like my suit will cost a small fortune, but if it fits right and does what I want, it will be worth it. Besides, I have to blow holiday bonus money on something, right? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,106 #11 December 6, 2002 Quote Justin, Keep in mind John's a featherweight when considering swoop chordsmaura Hi Maura: ... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BikerBabe 0 #12 December 7, 2002 One other piece of advice. When they take the measurement that goes lengthwise around your torso (from your neck, between your legs, and back around), ARCH! Otherwise, the suit will be too short for you in the torso and will prevent you from arching like you need to. Yes, you'll have some extra material in the crotch when you're walking around on the ground, but it will be much better in the air.Never meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites