piisfish 140 #101 November 13, 2006 Didn't jump a same size Crossfire. Usually between 90 and 180 This 1st jump was straight, double front. No fancy pictures available.scissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
piisfish 140 #102 November 19, 2006 QuoteYou didn't think it had greater riser pressure than your Crossfire or any oversteer?3 more jumps on it this weekend, I found riser pressure lighter than on my Crossfire, understood what you meant by oversteer.. Thought about you coming out of a big "altitude" riser turn. countered the exit of the turn with my harness.scissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
johnny1488 1 #103 November 20, 2006 Some of the stuff I've heard from the designers at Icarus is that they put the oversteer into the canopy so you can start your swoop with no inputs on the canopy. The more you jump it, you'll start to anticipate it and adjust for it. It starts to feel normal after a while. Johnny --"This ain't no book club, we're all gonna die!" Mike Rome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
piisfish 140 #104 December 4, 2006 got now around 15 jumps on mine. Really happy I got it. Openings are even better than on the Crossfire2.scissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkymonkeyONE 4 #105 December 4, 2006 There is one NEOS demo over at Sunshine Factory. Everyone who has jumped it seems to like it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
packing_jarrett 0 #106 December 5, 2006 QuoteOpenings are even better than on the Crossfire2. Don't you think the openings on a crossfire are maybe a little bit too long? If what your saying is correct then I might say the neos is a ridiculously long opening canopy. Before I started changing the way I packed my crossfire it was to the point where the opening sometimes took 800ft to open. just my opinionNa' Cho' Cheese Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
johnny1488 1 #107 December 5, 2006 Not any longer, but completely under control. I have yet to have more than a 90 on my Neos. And once the canopy has found its heading during the first second of the snivel, it has not moved. It is the best opening canopy I have ever jumped. Imagine a canopy that opens as soft as a Crossfire2 and "does not" go off heading. Thats the Neos. Johnny --"This ain't no book club, we're all gonna die!" Mike Rome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
piisfish 140 #108 December 5, 2006 QuoteDon't you think the openings on a crossfire are maybe a little bit too long? If what your saying is correct then I might say the neos is a ridiculously long opening canopy. Before I started changing the way I packed my crossfire it was to the point where the opening sometimes took 800ft to open. just my opinionWell them 800ft openings are not ridiculously long for me If I want fast openings, I open a reserve or a BASE canopy, NOT a skydiving canopy.scissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhys 0 #109 December 6, 2006 most of the people that have said to me the crossfire/icarus openings are too long are people that are used to contantly getting slammed by 200' openings on sabres stilettos etc. a longer opening canopy is better for the human body but opening height has to be allowd for. I actually enjoy the opening sequence!"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
packing_jarrett 0 #110 December 6, 2006 I agree I like the opening sequence on the crossfire too. But if the whole sequence sped up. Not like a 200ft opening... there has to be a happy medium. Oh and I did get slammed by sabres and stiletto's.Na' Cho' Cheese Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flow 1 #111 December 6, 2006 Quote There is one NEOS demo over at Sunshine Factory. Everyone who has jumped it seems to like it. What size canopy the demo is? I'll be there from 19th December to 9th January and would like to demo the Neos if it is in any proper size. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkymonkeyONE 4 #112 December 7, 2006 It's in the 110 foot range unless I am mistaken. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
taz2468 0 #113 January 9, 2007 I have spoken with Icarus and the NEOS will be officially released in feb 07 however the response from the demos they have sent out is so good that you can order one now (like i have), I have also spoken with dave Ruffell from sunshine factory and the NEOS he was jumping at Z-Hills was an 84'. As for the openings on my crossfire, 800'-1000' depending on conditions. and i'm more than happy to wait, i've had some back breakers on stiletto's and sabre's. In my humble opinion Icarus have their opening sequence spot on. I'm a very happy crossfire pilot. Full Power..... No Compromise!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bak_peter 0 #114 March 13, 2007 It's way past february now, and you still can't read anything about the Neos on the Icarus website. But the Neos is listed on their online stock report. When is Icarus going to release some info about the canopy on their website? Does anybody know? Peter Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkymonkeyONE 4 #115 March 13, 2007 There are two of them in Sunshine Factory gear shop right now. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tj-land 0 #116 March 22, 2007 What would you like to now? Tj Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
piisfish 140 #117 March 22, 2007 QuoteWhat would you like to now? Tjwhen the info will be online. I am an Icarus fan, love their products, but the company in general lack "giving information" , even if a couple of rep's are very very helpful. I was given the info that the Neos would be online shortly after PIA, still nothing on the horizon...scissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bak_peter 0 #118 March 22, 2007 I have heard a lot from you guys here in this forum, and it was great info. But like piisfish says, I need some info from Icarus themselves. Just like when any other canopymanufacturer make a new product, they also produce some kind of info (flight characteristics, minimum/max wingload, preferred wingload etc. etc etc.) about the canopy which is available for everybody. On the Icarus website, you can read a lot about the VX, FX, Crossfire, and all the other canopies Icarus are making. But you can't read anything about the Neos, despite you already can buy the canopy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
johnny1488 1 #119 April 24, 2007 The new website is under construction, and will be online as soon as it is ready, but there are some other things in the works that are more inportant right now, like getting the production times down and working with customers. I have been looking forward to the new site too, so I know how you feel. Johnny --"This ain't no book club, we're all gonna die!" Mike Rome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bak_peter 0 #120 April 24, 2007 Do you know when (in weeks or months) Icarus is going to have the new website ready? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
johnny1488 1 #121 April 25, 2007 No I do not. I am hoping weeks. Johnny --"This ain't no book club, we're all gonna die!" Mike Rome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
taz2468 0 #122 April 25, 2007 don't know anything about the Icarus web site but Irelands first Neos arrived at my doorstep this morning soon as the damn rain stops i'll let you know how it isFull Power..... No Compromise!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marks 0 #123 April 25, 2007 one of the test jumpers of that canopy asked you what you wanted to know above. why don't you just get your answer straight from him? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bak_peter 0 #124 April 25, 2007 I'm not looking in to buy the Neos/getting a new canopy this season, and therefore didn't wanted TJ to explain it all. The reason I asked, was out of curiosity for Icarus products in general. I also find it strange, that you can order the canopy, but Icarus haven't released any info (which is available for everybody) about the canopy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marks 0 #125 April 25, 2007 QuoteI'm not looking in to buy the Neos/getting a new canopy this season, and therefore didn't wanted TJ to explain it all. The reason I asked, was out of curiosity for Icarus products in general. I also find it strange, that you can order the canopy, but Icarus haven't released any info (which is available for everybody) about the canopy. all I can say, is I guess not everyone works like we do here in the U.S. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
