Beverly 1 #1 December 17, 2006 So today, I swooped my first pond. So a gushing thank you thread to my mentors that have been there from the beginning. Ian, your advice and inspiration is unmatched. Ward for all your tips and tricks. Beas for all your patience, advice and encouragement. Kaz, you will have some chick company in Aus next year! I think true friendship is under-rated Twitter: @Dreamskygirlsa Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marks 0 #2 December 17, 2006 wow, you almost went swimmin in #1. congrats Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanuckInUSA 0 #3 December 17, 2006 Quotewow, you almost went swimmin in #1. congrats Check out the canopy in pic #1. I'm surprised she made it to the shore. But congrats to Bev for her "beer" first pond swoop. Pond swooping rocks!!! Try not to worry about the things you have no control over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,564 #4 December 17, 2006 Just a general wondering about pic1, how efficient is it to be so deep in rears that the canopy is that deformed? Would it be better to transition to toggles earlier in the swoop?Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tonto 1 #5 December 17, 2006 I watched that swoop "live" and I have to say that seeing the still of the canopy like that comes as a bit of a surprise. This pond is new, and I think we all have a great deal to learn about canopies, flight, and interaction with water. Right now, I feel safer over ground and I have yet to swoop the pond. tIt's the year of the Pig. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanuckInUSA 0 #6 December 17, 2006 Quotehow efficient is it to be so deep in rears that the canopy is that deformed? I can tell you guys from personal experience that we really really really need to be careful (especially over hard ground) while flying our rears. Once you rear riser stall a cross-braced canopy in slams down behind you on the ground with little warning. I've purposely stalled my rears on landing coming in straight and the canopy does shutter warning you of the stall. But while in a turn not only will it stall at a higher airspeed but there is little warning. Just asked anyone who watched me hurt myself at the 2005 CPC Champsionships when I stalled on rears in the speed carving course. There is video of this crash on skydivingmovies as well as in the video Ian Drennan made from the event. It wasn't pretty and it hurt. Try not to worry about the things you have no control over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanuckInUSA 0 #7 December 17, 2006 QuoteThis pond is new, and I think we all have a great deal to learn about canopies, flight, and interaction with water. I had to learn (sometimes the hard way) about pond swooping when Mile-Hi built their pond in 2005. The depth perception of the water is different than the ground (especially near sunset when the winds have died down and the water is glassy and very reflective). Plus I've also had to learn the hard lessons about not touching down until you've properly leveled off and slowed down a little. Have fun guys and gals, but remember that the water can still hurt you. Try not to worry about the things you have no control over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ianmdrennan 2 #8 December 18, 2006 Bev, I'm very proud of you girl Tonto has a valid point, and (while I know you do Bev) I'd encourage all the jumpers swooping the pond to seek out comments from people who are experienced over water. It does change things and there are some very common mistakes that people make that can easily be avoided with the right pointers and coaching. Water, while a great training tool, can falsely give pilots a sense of invulnerability - try not to fall into that trap. Try, if possible, to get someone out there to help you all overcome it and provide the safest swoop experience you can all have! Again, good job you're well on your way. Blues, IanPerformance Designs Factory Team Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Beverly 1 #9 December 18, 2006 Thanks Ian, Well we are all pretty inexperienced here. I posted that pic to get feedback. So that is what we all need. The swoop was pretty smooth and slow, it was off a 180ish turn, so pretty lame for a first attempt. I normally do a 270 and not have to be so hard on the rears, but alas I was petrified of getting drenched! A few more practice jumps and I will beable to get the feel of the canopy and water and distances. Also I only have about 400 jumps on a crossbraced and only been getting any major distance for the last 30 odd jumps and only started using rears for the last 20 or so. So advice and comments are very welcome. The last pic was accompanied by a "Bev Squeak!" on splashing into the shallow water. Note everyone hosing themselves at me! That is what you get for being last to swoop the pond on that load. I think true friendship is under-rated Twitter: @Dreamskygirlsa Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pierre3636 0 #10 December 18, 2006 hey CanuckInUSA - where is that movie ? what keyword can i use for a search - very keen to see that clip. i had a togggle stuck a while ago and landed my canopy on the rears and got very very close to stalling it. ~ time is ~ time was ~ times past ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanuckInUSA 0 #11 December 18, 2006 Quotehey CanuckInUSA - where is that movie ? what keyword can i use for a search - very keen to see that clip. i had a togggle stuck a while ago and landed my canopy on the rears and got very very close to stalling it. Hopefully Ian won't mind me giving out the "skydivingmovies.com" URL to his video which has my crash (seen about 3/4 of the way through the song). The video itself has some awesome swooping footage from Colorado 2 years ago and he did a really good job mixing the footage to the music. It can be found here. But now that he's an evil mean greenie (just kidding) he has the power to delete this message if he chooses. But it is one of my favorite swooping videos and I'm not just saying that to suck up to the evil mean greenie. It really is a good video. Try not to worry about the things you have no control over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
justinhawxhurst 0 #12 December 18, 2006 Nice video you all got balls of steal. (girls included) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pierre3636 0 #13 December 18, 2006 tx bro - awsome ps are you talking about 2.45 sec where the pilot (dunno if its you) slams on his back falling out of a carve? ~ time is ~ time was ~ times past ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanuckInUSA 0 #14 December 18, 2006 Quotetx bro - awsome ps are you talking about 2.45 sec where the pilot (dunno if its you) slams on his back falling out of a carve? I really should be sleeping as I need to get up for work in a few short hours. Anyway, about 3/4 of the way through the video Ian shows a sequence of crashes. Chris Hayes is the first guy chowing in the pond flying a yellow canopy with PD lettering on the bottom skin, I'm the 2nd guy crashing (my rear riser stall) and the Greg Chopick is shown crashing right after me. I would like to blame this sequence as a conspiracy theory as Ian clearly likes to pick on Canadians (Chris, Greg and myself are all originally from Canad'ia). But then again. maybe it was just us 'nucks who were doing all the crashing that day. But as I said, it's one of my favorite swooping videos. Oh Ian also includes Jay Moledski's (another Canuck) world distance record swoop near the beginning of the video. So maybe it's not a conspiracy thing-a-ma-bob after all. Try not to worry about the things you have no control over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Swooopa-x 0 #15 December 18, 2006 congrats b. what a weekend. thanx to all ...if its possible to hav more fun pleas somone tell me how... also herewith my first lazeeboi!People dont care how much you know until they know how much you care. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
justinhawxhurst 0 #16 December 18, 2006 Looks like alot of water ahead did you make it to solid ground? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Swooopa-x 0 #17 December 18, 2006 no, wind was 20 kts and i had stuffed the setup... People dont care how much you know until they know how much you care. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ArnoSchutte 0 #18 December 18, 2006 I think there was more swimming involved than skydiving this weekend... But it was well worth it and LOADS of fun ! Regards Arnie Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
justinhawxhurst 0 #19 December 19, 2006 So where is the rest of the seqence Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Swooopa-x 0 #20 December 19, 2006 for you laughing pleasurePeople dont care how much you know until they know how much you care. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
justinhawxhurst 0 #21 December 19, 2006 Good stuff I am far from swooping the pond but will post the crashes as soon as I get them Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Peej 0 #22 December 25, 2006 HAHA! I did it! I swooped the pond and touched the water too. This weekend was a blast, thanks to all involved Advertisio Rodriguez / Sky Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
piisfish 140 #23 December 25, 2006 you dirty reposter you Happy christmasscissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Peej 0 #24 December 25, 2006 Quoteyou dirty reposter you Happy christmas I'm happy, so sue me Merry Xmas to you too Fishy! Advertisio Rodriguez / Sky Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Swooopa-x 0 #25 December 27, 2006 BEAUTIFULLLLLLLL! And i confirm these hav not been fotoshopped........much hehehe nice job peejPeople dont care how much you know until they know how much you care. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
