Weimopower 0 #1 January 11, 2007 I just got my JVX79 all sail and I was wondering if there is another jumping a JVX in Germany? thanks,Olaf Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maxx 1 #2 January 11, 2007 Is it certified now? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marks 0 #3 January 11, 2007 explain... please... do canopies have to be certified by some "entity" in germany? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phoenixlpr 0 #4 January 11, 2007 Not just in Germany, AFAIK in Hungary too. BTW, Germany should be written in capital like U.S.A. or any state of it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marks 0 #5 January 11, 2007 QuoteBTW, Germany should be written in capital like U.S.A. or any state of it. BTW, AFAIK should be spelled out so I can understand. what does that mean? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob.dino 1 #6 January 11, 2007 1- Canopies do have to be certified in Germany. Not sure who does this or how it's done. 2- AFAIK = As Far As I Know. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aeronaut 1 #7 January 12, 2007 the canopies have to be certified by the LBA "Luftfahrtbundesamt". the test flights "Musterprüfung" are made by "Verband unabhängiger Prüfer von Luftsportgeräte e.V." i did not find the jvx in the list "Musterprüfverzeichnis Stand 28.08.06" , so i´m not sure if it´s legal to jump it in germany (also refer to insurance company/policy). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob.dino 1 #8 January 12, 2007 Quotei did not find the jvx in the list "Musterprüfverzeichnis Stand 28.08.06" , so i´m not sure if it´s legal to jump it in germany (also refer to insurance company/policy). I knew I'd seen something about it recently. Here is confirmation that it was being worked on recently. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflyn 0 #9 January 12, 2007 So what are the ramifications of jumping a "non-certified" canopy? This seems like a rather inefficient system. Wouldn't it better to have certified manufactures if the governments want to add more red tape? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
frost 1 #10 January 12, 2007 Quotethe canopies have to be certified by the LBA "Luftfahrtbundesamt". the test flights "Musterprüfung" are made by "Verband unabhängiger Prüfer von Luftsportgeräte e.V." i did not find the jvx in the list "Musterprüfverzeichnis Stand 28.08.06" , so i´m not sure if it´s legal to jump it in germany (also refer to insurance company/policy). If it wasnt so politically incorrect, i would say they are real canopy Nazis. :)SoFPiDaRF - School of Fast Progress in Downsizing and Radical Flying. Because nobody knows your skills better than you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marks 0 #11 January 12, 2007 QuoteSo what are the ramifications of jumping a "non-certified" canopy? This seems like a rather inefficient system. Wouldn't it better to have certified manufactures if the governments want to add more red tape? every government has its problems. we have ours. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marks 0 #12 January 12, 2007 QuoteQuotethe canopies have to be certified by the LBA "Luftfahrtbundesamt". the test flights "Musterprüfung" are made by "Verband unabhängiger Prüfer von Luftsportgeräte e.V." i did not find the jvx in the list "Musterprüfverzeichnis Stand 28.08.06" , so i´m not sure if it´s legal to jump it in germany (also refer to insurance company/policy). If it wasnt so politically incorrect, i would say they are real canopy Nazis. :) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflyn 0 #13 January 12, 2007 Very true, but this law/ rule/ BSR seems to be a bit excessively controlling on such a small market. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #14 January 12, 2007 Quote Very true, but this law/ rule/ BSR seems to be a bit excessively controlling on such a small market. Sure, but how many low turn fatalities and swoop fatalities have come out of Deutchland over the past few years? What I heard is that the JVX was banned in Germany due to the Treaty of Versailles, that its considered a weapon of mass swoop destruction. --"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob.dino 1 #15 January 12, 2007 QuoteSure, but how many low turn fatalities and swoop fatalities have come out of Deutchland over the past few years? Four since mid-2005. Low toggle turn to get into wind. 180 too low. Flew into obstacle after front-riser turn. Downsize. 270. Hanger roof. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #16 January 12, 2007 QuoteFour since mid-2005. Really? I stand corrected then, I missed those some how.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bofh 0 #17 January 12, 2007 QuoteSo what are the ramifications of jumping a "non-certified" canopy? This seems like a rather inefficient system. Wouldn't it better to have certified manufactures if the governments want to add more red tape? Our technical committee does the same thing in Sweden. At least here, it is often no more than checking that the gear is acceptable and adding it to a list. In the case of canopies there are also classified as HP or not as we have special rules for flying HP canopies. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phoenixlpr 0 #18 January 12, 2007 Quote Very true, but this law/ rule/ BSR seems to be a bit excessively controlling on such a small market. Look around in your own yard, you can name at least one BS rule or BSR. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhys 0 #19 January 12, 2007 In Norway you can only jump a PDF, sigma or vector 2 tandem system and you can only jump them with Sigma, EZ or blue track main???? no others! sport mans are different though. In sweden my friend had to write a manual for a certain (i won't name it to avoid identity) main canopy that didn't have a manual, he needed a manual to apply to use it. he is now allowed to jump it."When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Weimopower 0 #20 January 12, 2007 Guys, all OT, no JVX jumpers in Germany? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herckydude 0 #21 January 13, 2007 I think Toby Scherrinsky has one, and Patrice Duquerrois also. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
elduderino 0 #22 January 29, 2007 yeahhh... and its iiiilllleeeeggggaalllllllllllllllll Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
elduderino 0 #23 January 29, 2007 what do you pay for it? are you satisfied??? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sabre1Lucke 0 #24 January 30, 2007 Don't know if Tobi already has his JVX, but he certainly ordered one Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Weimopower 0 #25 January 31, 2007 Hello elduderino, I got my JVX 3 weeks ago but I did not jump it until know because of s**t weather. I am also looking for a bigger rig, it did not fit into a 135sqft container!! I got a Velo 84 and 79 but this JVX seems to be similar to a Velo 90 (by size). Will post when I jumped it... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites