marks 0 #1 February 13, 2007 So, it is official. the new P.D. reserves are out. I just updated my 106 to a 126. soon I will update my tempo 120 to a 143. they are all orange. and my 126 was in stock. so I should have it this weekend. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
frost 1 #2 February 13, 2007 yeah, i saw the PIA news on that. How much are they? And how did you get it - did you call them directly?SoFPiDaRF - School of Fast Progress in Downsizing and Radical Flying. Because nobody knows your skills better than you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marks 0 #3 February 13, 2007 I bought it through hans at skydive the farm. he is my local dealer. the price is, well lets just say, the price is worth it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites berchtoldaj 0 #4 February 14, 2007 the MSRP on the Optimum is $1,380. Based on the limited quantities that may be available and the fact that this is a premium reserve being added on to the product line, not replacing the PD Reserve, we are not anticipating to see much discounting on this canopy by dealers. But like Mark said, well worth the money. they open, fly and land like no reserve I've ever tried.************ Watch out for planters. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites RMURRAY 1 #5 February 14, 2007 what is the wing loading on the 126r - still pretty high? rm Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites marks 0 #6 February 14, 2007 I have deployed and landed my 106 at a 2.4 wing loading. I am happy to say that that max wingloading for me has gone down to 1.8. that is max, I had alot of lead on. that is using a roughly 220 lbs exit weight. (it took alot of lead to get me there) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites snafuhere 0 #7 February 14, 2007 any actual info on pack volume and available sizes? what model/size of container do you have? https://www.facebook.com/1skydive/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites marks 0 #8 February 14, 2007 the 126 will fit in a mirage mx. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Professor 0 #9 February 14, 2007 Al, is there any information available about container sizing for these, or how big they are in comparison to the standard PD reserves? If I have a container sized for a 126R, will a 143 Optimum fit in it? How about a 143 Optimum in a container for a 113R? Ted Like a giddy school girl. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites snafuhere 0 #10 February 14, 2007 For the record: MX can hold Icarus Crossfire 89 Medium Icarus Crossfire 99 Snug Performance Designs PD Reserve 106 Medium Performance Designs PD Reserve 113 Snug looks like 126 is a big step up https://www.facebook.com/1skydive/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites JGarcia 0 #11 February 14, 2007 Quotelooks like 126 is a big step up I think you may have missed that the new PD Optimums have a dramatically smaller pack volumes than any other reserve on the market today. This will allow you to upsize reserves very easily, while still fitting in your current rig sized for a much smaller reserve. I'll be upsizing my Smart 120 to the biggest that'll fit in my rig... thinking maybe the 143?! Cheers! --JairoLow Profile, snag free helmet mount for your Sony X3000 action cam! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites trigger 0 #12 February 14, 2007 Touch wood a 143 will fit in a mirge MO.CHOP WOOD COLLECT WATER. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites berchtoldaj 0 #13 February 14, 2007 As the sizing will vary from one container manufacturer to the next. PD will not dictate which size Optimum will fit in which model container. We will roughly say that most containers will fit 1-2 sizes larger reserve when comparing to the traditional PDR. We are providing samples to container manufacturers as they are requested so they will be able to produce charts for sizing. The Flight Characteristics, and FAQ's are now up on the PD website for those who would like to take a peek. Many of your questions will be answered there. www.performancedesigns.com************ Watch out for planters. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites superstu 0 #14 February 14, 2007 i had a chance to talk to the lead test jumper for PD this past january while in florida and from the sound of it this should be one badass wing in every aspect. i hope to be getting a 143 shortly.Slip Stream Air Sports Do not go softly, do not go quietly, never back down Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites packing_jarrett 0 #15 February 14, 2007 They also say the MZ is at its max with a PDR 106 but I've seen my rigger pack a PDR113 into an MZ with a cypres. With that information... I would say that you can get a *little* bit bigger reserve than what mirage tells you will be the biggest.Na' Cho' Cheese Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites hparrish 0 #16 February 16, 2007 Guess I was thinking ahead......I had my Rigs custom built to support a standard PD 143 and sub 100 sq ft main. I'll bet I paid more than you did. Wish these new reserves were out then. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites RMURRAY 1 #17 February 20, 2007 looks like there are more used PD reserves on sale. good news for people interested in a good used reserve. Looks like I picked up a PDR a year too early. rm Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kharkness 0 #18 March 11, 2007 As far as I know about the Optimum, the max size they are making is a 143. Thats right from PD website. It will pack like a 126. And it only comes in orange. The Sky's not the limit, the ground is. Fear Nothing, Regret Less. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Spizzzarko 0 #19 March 12, 2007 I got a jump on the new PD 113R and the new 143R. All I have to say is: GET ONE!!! IF YOU DON'T THEN YOU SUCK That is all. You can read my thread about it in the gear and rigging forum. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites diablopilot 2 #20 March 12, 2007 When they have been on the market a few years maybe.---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Spizzzarko 0 #21 March 12, 2007 Ahhh fuck it man. JP there is no way that you can suck. You are the one exception to the rule. Everyone else sucks though. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Canuck 0 #22 March 12, 2007 QuoteWhen they have been on the market a few years maybe. How many years had the R-max been on the market when you started jumping one of those? Canuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites diablopilot 2 #23 March 13, 2007 I don't jump an R-Max, and they don't incorporate new technology. With all the respect possible, I applaud PD for taking this step, however experience and a look back at history tells me to watch carefully for the unexpected that occurs in the regular marketplace. I am not opposed to new technology, just prefer to have an "out". I was eager to embrace HMA, but would not have been so eager had it been on my reserve.---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites diablopilot 2 #24 March 13, 2007 QuoteAhhh fuck it man. JP there is no way that you can suck. You are the one exception to the rule. Everyone else sucks though. Finally. Someone who gets it.---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites JGarcia 0 #25 June 8, 2007 I just upsized my Reserve as well! I have a Wings (W-4) which was designed to hold a PD-113R. I had a Tempo 120 in there (tight fit) and just upsized to the new PD Optimum 143 Reserve.Cheers! --Jairo Low Profile, snag free helmet mount for your Sony X3000 action cam! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 Next Page 1 of 2 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
berchtoldaj 0 #4 February 14, 2007 the MSRP on the Optimum is $1,380. Based on the limited quantities that may be available and the fact that this is a premium reserve being added on to the product line, not replacing the PD Reserve, we are not anticipating to see much discounting on this canopy by dealers. But like Mark said, well worth the money. they open, fly and land like no reserve I've ever tried.************ Watch out for planters. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RMURRAY 1 #5 February 14, 2007 what is the wing loading on the 126r - still pretty high? rm Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marks 0 #6 February 14, 2007 I have deployed and landed my 106 at a 2.4 wing loading. I am happy to say that that max wingloading for me has gone down to 1.8. that is max, I had alot of lead on. that is using a roughly 220 lbs exit weight. (it took alot of lead to get me there) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
snafuhere 0 #7 February 14, 2007 any actual info on pack volume and available sizes? what model/size of container do you have? https://www.facebook.com/1skydive/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marks 0 #8 February 14, 2007 the 126 will fit in a mirage mx. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Professor 0 #9 February 14, 2007 Al, is there any information available about container sizing for these, or how big they are in comparison to the standard PD reserves? If I have a container sized for a 126R, will a 143 Optimum fit in it? How about a 143 Optimum in a container for a 113R? Ted Like a giddy school girl. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
snafuhere 0 #10 February 14, 2007 For the record: MX can hold Icarus Crossfire 89 Medium Icarus Crossfire 99 Snug Performance Designs PD Reserve 106 Medium Performance Designs PD Reserve 113 Snug looks like 126 is a big step up https://www.facebook.com/1skydive/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JGarcia 0 #11 February 14, 2007 Quotelooks like 126 is a big step up I think you may have missed that the new PD Optimums have a dramatically smaller pack volumes than any other reserve on the market today. This will allow you to upsize reserves very easily, while still fitting in your current rig sized for a much smaller reserve. I'll be upsizing my Smart 120 to the biggest that'll fit in my rig... thinking maybe the 143?! Cheers! --JairoLow Profile, snag free helmet mount for your Sony X3000 action cam! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
trigger 0 #12 February 14, 2007 Touch wood a 143 will fit in a mirge MO.CHOP WOOD COLLECT WATER. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
berchtoldaj 0 #13 February 14, 2007 As the sizing will vary from one container manufacturer to the next. PD will not dictate which size Optimum will fit in which model container. We will roughly say that most containers will fit 1-2 sizes larger reserve when comparing to the traditional PDR. We are providing samples to container manufacturers as they are requested so they will be able to produce charts for sizing. The Flight Characteristics, and FAQ's are now up on the PD website for those who would like to take a peek. Many of your questions will be answered there. www.performancedesigns.com************ Watch out for planters. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
superstu 0 #14 February 14, 2007 i had a chance to talk to the lead test jumper for PD this past january while in florida and from the sound of it this should be one badass wing in every aspect. i hope to be getting a 143 shortly.Slip Stream Air Sports Do not go softly, do not go quietly, never back down Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
packing_jarrett 0 #15 February 14, 2007 They also say the MZ is at its max with a PDR 106 but I've seen my rigger pack a PDR113 into an MZ with a cypres. With that information... I would say that you can get a *little* bit bigger reserve than what mirage tells you will be the biggest.Na' Cho' Cheese Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hparrish 0 #16 February 16, 2007 Guess I was thinking ahead......I had my Rigs custom built to support a standard PD 143 and sub 100 sq ft main. I'll bet I paid more than you did. Wish these new reserves were out then. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RMURRAY 1 #17 February 20, 2007 looks like there are more used PD reserves on sale. good news for people interested in a good used reserve. Looks like I picked up a PDR a year too early. rm Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kharkness 0 #18 March 11, 2007 As far as I know about the Optimum, the max size they are making is a 143. Thats right from PD website. It will pack like a 126. And it only comes in orange. The Sky's not the limit, the ground is. Fear Nothing, Regret Less. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spizzzarko 0 #19 March 12, 2007 I got a jump on the new PD 113R and the new 143R. All I have to say is: GET ONE!!! IF YOU DON'T THEN YOU SUCK That is all. You can read my thread about it in the gear and rigging forum. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #20 March 12, 2007 When they have been on the market a few years maybe.---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spizzzarko 0 #21 March 12, 2007 Ahhh fuck it man. JP there is no way that you can suck. You are the one exception to the rule. Everyone else sucks though. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Canuck 0 #22 March 12, 2007 QuoteWhen they have been on the market a few years maybe. How many years had the R-max been on the market when you started jumping one of those? Canuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #23 March 13, 2007 I don't jump an R-Max, and they don't incorporate new technology. With all the respect possible, I applaud PD for taking this step, however experience and a look back at history tells me to watch carefully for the unexpected that occurs in the regular marketplace. I am not opposed to new technology, just prefer to have an "out". I was eager to embrace HMA, but would not have been so eager had it been on my reserve.---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #24 March 13, 2007 QuoteAhhh fuck it man. JP there is no way that you can suck. You are the one exception to the rule. Everyone else sucks though. Finally. Someone who gets it.---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JGarcia 0 #25 June 8, 2007 I just upsized my Reserve as well! I have a Wings (W-4) which was designed to hold a PD-113R. I had a Tempo 120 in there (tight fit) and just upsized to the new PD Optimum 143 Reserve.Cheers! --Jairo Low Profile, snag free helmet mount for your Sony X3000 action cam! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
