brendakt 0 #1 May 25, 2007 Help me please. Can anyone who is jumping a xaos 21 or 27 around the 98-108 let me know the capacity of their tray and how their canopy is fitting into it. Thanks. Cant seem to get a reply from precision about it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cessna54tango 0 #2 May 25, 2007 not sure about tray size but mine is an 83 and it fits into my container (jav) that was made for a 110-120 perfectly. my buddy has a 93 that fits into his jav that he previously had a 135 in. maybe this helps. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cessna54tango 0 #3 May 25, 2007 oh yea, and another guy at our dz just got a 98 that he previously had a viper 120 in. fits perfectly in his wings. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JGarcia 0 #4 May 26, 2007 Hello... I'm not sure what the volume is, however I can tell you that my Xaos-27 93 (which you'll see in the classifieds soon bec it's for sale! )fits in a bag/container made for a standard 135 sq ft canopy. Cheers! --Jairo Low Profile, snag free helmet mount for your Sony X3000 action cam! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkymonkeyONE 4 #5 May 26, 2007 A little smaller than the range you want, but I have a Xaos 27 80 that packs the same size as a Velo 84, that packs the same size as a Sabre2 97. Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brendakt 0 #6 May 26, 2007 So in your opinion around the 20-25% larger than a standard 9 cell is about correct? And just while I've got you there, the xaos and velo pretty similar to someone stepping to a cross-brace or is the xaos a bit more gentle? Am moving from a similar sized mamba to probably a xaos. Thanks. Oh, impossible to get demos of either down in my part of the world. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkymonkeyONE 4 #7 May 27, 2007 A Xaos 21 is a bit more manageable than a Velo as far as openings go, but you will not get Velo distance out of a Xaos 21. A Xaos 27 is in exactly the same league as a Velo, but it opens and flys a bit differently. "Different" does not mean better or worse. I would not consider any of the three I mentioned as "too much parachute" to someone who has at least 500 jumps on an HP 9-cell (katana, mamba, crossfire/crossfire2, etc). I would not recommend ANY crossbraced canopy to ANYONE with under 1000 total skydives. In about 2000 jumps on crossbraced canopies I can't say I have ever jumped one, other than my old Icarus VX 74, which opened "bad". Yes, 27-cell crossbraced mains pack about 25% larger than 9-cells in same-size comparisons. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brendakt 0 #8 May 27, 2007 Hey Chuck I appreciate your time and advice. I am right on the jump numbers you are talking about now and intend to do another 100-150 jumps on my mamba. I load it at 2.1:1 and while I love the way it flies at that loading I am giving up on glide at the end of my swoop. I do about 30% of my jumps as canopy dedicated jumps as I live near a small tandem dz with no other sporties which suits me fine. I am a very careful pilot. With all this in mind do you think a jump to a cb at 2.2:1 is too much? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkymonkeyONE 4 #9 May 27, 2007 If you are already satisfactorily landing a Mamba at 2.1, then I don't think you are going to need to worry about 2.2 under a crossbraced main. Yes, HP nine-cells do land fine at that loading and yes you do start losing a lot of glide distance on landing at that wingloading under a nine-cell. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stevo 0 #10 June 4, 2007 i had a 96 Xaos 27 and it seemed to pack snuggly in a jav 120 tray. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flytrybe 0 #11 June 27, 2007 My 98 X-27 fits fine in the Mirage G4 MT (also fits a non-crossbraced 120) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
imdskydiver 0 #12 October 8, 2007 I have about 600-700 jumps on a Xaos 21 98 , I would like to try a Xaos 27 , would i be happy with one at the same wing loading or should i go to something slightly smaller ? Now i know that may sound like a pretty vague question but i hear that they dive and recover differently . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CKSCUBA 0 #13 October 8, 2007 i have a xaos 27 118 and it packs big. it fits a container made for a 165. it packs big. is someone selling a xaos 27 98 and how much??? chris Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydemon2 0 #14 October 10, 2007 Are you selling a Xaos 118? Beauty is only skin deep, but ugly goes clean to the bone! I like to start my day off with a little Ray of Soulshine™!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dharma1976 0 #15 October 10, 2007 QuoteI would not recommend ANY crossbraced canopy to ANYONE with under 1000 total skydives. shit I better get in 50 skydives quick... Davehttp://www.skyjunky.com CSpenceFLY - I can't believe the number of people willing to bet their life on someone else doing the right thing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RickyGood 0 #16 October 10, 2007 If your selling your 118 I might be keen, how many jumps on it, I'm looking for an oldie I can use for G-Launching?? And yeah 1000 is recomended for x-braced, but the guy who just won the Australian Nationals is on a JVX and I think he only has 900 jumps or something like that, awsome!!! Also my good friend Jeff got a VX92 after I think 650 jumps and he was rocking it in no time, as in properly rocking it, blindmen, tick jockey's etc. Turbo from my DZ is on a xaos after 600 and is smoking. We do alot of camera though, I guess there's exceptions... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CKSCUBA 0 #17 October 10, 2007 no not selling the 118 still paying it off. its a great canopy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyspike 0 #18 October 10, 2007 i have a x27 94 and its pack volume is like old 120 canopy. Great Canopy!"Der Tod stellt aus versorgungsrechtlicher Sicht die stärkste Form der Dienstunfähigkeit dar." (Unterrichtsblätter für die Bundeswehrverwaltung) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LukeOliver 0 #19 October 10, 2007 Quote And yeah 1000 is recomended for x-braced, but the guy who just won the Australian Nationals is on a JVX and I think he only has 900 jumps or something like that, awsome!!! The guy you're thinking of targeted this discipline from day one, worked real hard at acquiring skills: got mentoring, rigorous goal setting, disciplined practice. Lots of effort. You could too. But he did. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RickyGood 0 #20 October 10, 2007 Yeah man what a legend!!! I love that people are acknowledging swooping so much now that it's all they wana learn to skydive for. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dharma1976 0 #21 October 10, 2007 like yeah i do the freefall thing but I skydive for canopy piloting Davehttp://www.skyjunky.com CSpenceFLY - I can't believe the number of people willing to bet their life on someone else doing the right thing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chris74 0 #22 October 11, 2007 Hello Birds, Does a Xaos 21-108 fits a TJN ? Blue skies Chris Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites