Sergey-san 0 #1 June 27, 2007 Here is the new front riser loops design by former RWS for Vector Micron and V3 M-series: http://www.unitedparachutetechnologies.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=99 Has anyone tried this already? Any opinions? Thanks, Sergey. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ianmdrennan 2 #2 June 27, 2007 Putting in an order for a set today - will let you know what I think when I get a chance to jump them. Blues, IanPerformance Designs Factory Team Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Peej 0 #3 June 27, 2007 Quote http://www.unitedparachutetechnologies.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=99 Edited to add, yeah Ian i would be very interested to hear what you think. Advertisio Rodriguez / Sky Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MrBrant 0 #4 June 27, 2007 I have a set on my new vector. I absolutely love them! . They are very easy to get into and out of. I never have to worry about finding them, and getting my fingers into them - it's just look-and-grab. (sometimes skipping the look) They also don't pinch/grab your fingers like some of the standard ones can. They are also a LOT easier on the ungloved fingers after a day of jumping - they don't dig into the skin. The only downside is they add quite a bit of bulk under the riser covers. I'll never go back to standard dive loops. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davelepka 4 #5 June 27, 2007 Sunpath started doing the same thing at least three years ago and they called it the 'swoop mod'. I've been jumping 'swoop mod' risers for three years and they're great. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sergey-san 0 #6 June 28, 2007 Do you mean easy-dive loops, which they offer in options list? Or is it something else? Can you post a photo of your set? Thanks in advance! Sergey. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davelepka 4 #7 June 28, 2007 When I ordered mine, it was called the 'swoop mod'. I'm not sure what they call it now, but it's just a padded dive loop so it's all cushy to grab, and it sticks out all the time. I don't think it's folded over the top of the riser (it might be), but I jump 24" risers, so even if it's 1/2 down from the top of the riser, it's still plenty far up. I keep my rig at the DZ, so no pics. Sorry. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sergey-san 0 #8 June 28, 2007 It looks like it is what they call now easy-dive loops. So, I understand what you're talking about, no need for pics:) This design by UPT is a bit different as you can see. The loop is on top of the riser and goes through the softlink (which is linked to the riser, not to the loop). I have two questions for those who use this design: 1. Does it affect turning technique in any significant way? 2. Is it suitable to use only with removable slider, is it difficult to roll a standard slider and move it down behind your head passing these loops and softlinks together? Sergey. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gearless_chris 1 #9 June 28, 2007 I talked to UPT and they said you can get the slider past the new loops, but it may be tight the first few times."If it wasn't easy stupid people couldn't do it", Duane. My momma said I could be anything I wanted when I grew up, so I became an a$$hole. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MrBrant 0 #10 June 28, 2007 I've had no problem brining my slider down behind my head. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ianmdrennan 2 #11 July 31, 2007 Mine are arriving today or tomorrow. Will post impressions on monday (assuming the weather co-operates Performance Designs Factory Team Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sergey-san 0 #12 August 1, 2007 Great! Look forward to your Review. Another question: Did you order your risers with regular toggles or Trulok Toggles? You know those Velcroless toggles with metal pins. Last 40 jumps I did on such toggles and liked them a lot! I don't think Sun Path has such option, risers which I used came from Atom container by PDF and replaced standard risers in the Jav. I liked them a lot because they're almost immune to break fires and slider goes through them pretty easily. The only thing I don't like in those risers by PDF is that they have inverted three-ring system. So I'm thinking about ordering those new risers with Loui Loops and Trulok Toggles from UPD and replacing standard Jav risers with them... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ianmdrennan 2 #13 August 1, 2007 I believe I ordered the Trulock toggles.Performance Designs Factory Team Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fab777 0 #14 August 1, 2007 Are the louie loop risers standard now on the vector micron? Fabien BASE#944 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ianmdrennan 2 #15 August 1, 2007 No I don't believe that they are. I believe you have to specifically ask for them. I'd check with UPT to be sure though. Blues, IanPerformance Designs Factory Team Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
superstu 0 #16 August 1, 2007 there is an option on the order form, but i'm pretty sure the default is the standard dive loopSlip Stream Air Sports Do not go softly, do not go quietly, never back down Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
klingeme 1 #17 August 2, 2007 QuoteAre the louie loop risers standard now on the vector micron? They are an option. $25 more than standard risers. Mark Klingelhoefer United Parachute Technologies Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sunnydee123 0 #18 August 3, 2007 I ordered Tru-lock also and asked specifically for Louis Loops. Can not WAIT! Dreams become reality, one choice at a time... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NeedToJump 0 #19 August 3, 2007 I have them and I like them much better than my old risers. I find that I can get more power out of a front riser turn and that it's easier to control the dive. I have them on my secondary rig which has become my primary rig partly because of how much I like the risers. Thanks for the new riser design Louie! Wind Tunnel and Skydiving Coach http://www.ariperelman.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
igoswoop 0 #20 August 14, 2007 And then there are PABLO loops... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
okalb 104 #21 April 5, 2008 This is far from a new design. The first time I saw this was about 1999 when Tony Hathaway came up with the idea and put them on his rig. He has put many thousands of Jumps on them. He still jumps them to this day. Over the years several people as Z-hills have come up with variations of them. The most common variation is now known as the Salony loops because they were a combined effort from Tony and Sally Hathaway. There are probably half a dozen of us that have been jumping the Salonys for at least 4 or 5 years. Tony actually still uses the older style like the "new" ones made by UPT. The newer Salonys have a ring around the top of the loop that connect to the slink. Here is a picture of Tony from a few years ago landing with his original design. http://www.tonyhathaway.com/downloads/tonyloops2.jpg Time flies like an arrow....fruit flies like a banana Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites