mutron 0 #1 September 5, 2007 hey I was wondering if anyone knows where to locate and download some good footage of helicopter spins and canopy stalls. Ive already searched skydivemov..com and could not locate what I was after thanks Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #2 September 5, 2007 E-mail TJ, he has some sick footage of some that has done. There are few things that will make you giggle like a little girl like doing helicopters up high.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AUSkyguy 0 #3 September 6, 2007 Buy Keen and able from Jimmy Halliday, It has a whole section on TJ that has spins in it-Chris Martin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CrazyL 0 #4 September 6, 2007 Got some good footage of rear riser helicopters. not on the internet though. what do ya need it for. just go do it yourself up high. if clouds are in the background it looks even better. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
johnny1488 1 #5 September 6, 2007 Yeah, TJs shit from Keen and Able on the 11 cell is pretty sick. Johnny --"This ain't no book club, we're all gonna die!" Mike Rome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DougH 270 #6 September 7, 2007 What are these? It sounds like I am missing out on something fun! "The restraining order says you're only allowed to touch me in freefall" =P Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mutron 0 #7 September 9, 2007 thanks for the tips... sounds like I need to get my hands on a copy of Keen and able...... ps DougH the helicopter is basically a rear riser stall however you once the canopy reaches the stall point you let up slightly on one riser which allows one side of the wing to inflate slightly -spinning you around... please take this definition with a grain of salt ... maybe one of veterans could give more of a technical definition...I will say this, I am having a hell of a good time pitching at altitude and experimenting, any other tips or tricks a rookie could ad to the tool bag would be much appreciated Quote Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DougH 270 #8 September 11, 2007 Sounds like fun! "The restraining order says you're only allowed to touch me in freefall" =P Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pulse 0 #9 September 11, 2007 I don't have any helicopter spins yet. (I currently don't own a canopy I feel comfortable doing them on.) But here's a couple of stalls I shot a year ago or so. Just click on the picture for the video: http://pulsevisuals.com/video/details/stallram-air.html"Any language where the unassuming word fly signifies an annoying insect, a means of travel, and a critical part of a gentleman's apparel is clearly asking to be mangled." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TCMRigging 0 #10 September 15, 2007 If I can get someone to video them I will post a video of it. TJ does have it down pretty good, I saw them on the Keen and Able video and he passed on the wisdom of how to do them to everyone when he visited my home DZ. They are a shit load of fun and I usually crank out a few on every jump. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
speedy 0 #11 October 1, 2007 Just yesterday (30th Sep) Peter did a helicopter on his velocity 90 loaded at around 2 to 1. It was amazing to watch as the canopy started to spin more or less on the spot. He was making about 3 spins a second. Martin has some video footage of it. He posts on here as Springbock. Peter said he was not in a hurry to repeat the jump Dave Fallschirmsport Marl Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spdu4ia 0 #12 October 3, 2007 http://manifestmaster.com/video/vinton2007.wmv look and goto the 3:30 mark, and there is a helicopter stall Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skygod7777 0 #13 October 3, 2007 http://manifestmaster.com/video/vinton2007.wmv later Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ianmdrennan 2 #14 October 3, 2007 Sorry, but that is not a helicopter stall. Blues, IanPerformance Designs Factory Team Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,995 #15 October 4, 2007 >look and goto the 3:30 mark, and there is a helicopter stall That's just your run-of-the-mill parachutal stall. A helicopter stall results in one side stalling and one side remaining flying; the resulting spin is quite rapid. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
d123 3 #16 October 4, 2007 Helli looks like this http://www.justacro.com/video/justACRO_Tricks_videos/justacro-helicopter.mpg but these are high aspect ratio acro wings. Dunno if and how these acro and siv manoeuvres scale to our low aspect ratio. Besides just by looking at them my blood boils. After I've seen a SIV for the 1st time, the following night I had a dream that my wing was out of control and no mater what I did I couldn't fix it. Another nice movie http://www.justacro.com/index.php?m=21&dl=112 Happy landings, Jean-Arthur Deda.Lock, Dock and Two Smoking Barrelrolls! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DougH 270 #17 October 4, 2007 So what are the chances of this leading to my new canopy being chopped and never found? I think my fear of spending a day bush wacking through brambles and thickets in the woods is overpowering my natural desire to do stupid shit lol. "The restraining order says you're only allowed to touch me in freefall" =P Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Springbock 0 #18 November 10, 2007 Here is the Video of the Helicopter stall Dave was referring to. Sorry for the bad quality :-) but it was hard to get close with my Stiletto135 to the velo90. Maby someone can make it clicky for me? Martin http://www.skydivingmovies.com/ver2/pafiledb.php?action=file&id=6471 Take care up there! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phoenixlpr 0 #19 November 10, 2007 Here ya go! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drudchen 0 #20 November 11, 2007 QuoteHere is the Video of the Helicopter stall Dave was referring to. Sorry for the bad quality :-) but it was hard to get close with my Stiletto135 to the velo90. Clicky: http://www.skydivingmovies.com/ver2/pafiledb.php?action=file&id=6471 Wow.. looks like a pretty radical maneuver. Just wondering - no linetwists after that one? It's not clear from the quality of the movie if a person under the canopy is keeping up with the turning canopy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Springbock 0 #21 November 11, 2007 Wondering? I was so sure he's going to chop any second when I was watching. We even joked in the Airplane whos going to follow the main and who the Freebag :-) But he had no twists at all, so scary it was. Martin Take care up there! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
speedy 0 #22 November 11, 2007 Peter said after initiating the spin, he let go of the risers and it just keep spinning on it's own Maybe we can persuade him to do it again so we can get better video I am certainly not going to try that shit Dave Fallschirmsport Marl Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Springbock 0 #23 November 11, 2007 Next Weekend? Take care up there! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #24 November 12, 2007 Why not? Its super fun. What I do is take my hands out of the toggles (just in case I spin up the canopy), do the rear stall while getting real wide in the harness. Then I add a little more to one side and lean to the other side of the harness gently. When I let up, I take both arms and push out WIDE and HARD on both the front and rear risers while getting really wide with my legs in the harness. You'll get some over turn and the canopy will dive while recovering, but you're laughing so hard it doesn't matter.What does it teach you about canopy flight? Nothing really. It is fun, though. It also makes cool video. --"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DesertDevil 1 #25 November 12, 2007 Here is a website with some good acrobatic video http://www.flyingfever.net/nepal_siv.html This site has some good disucssion on acrobatics: http://www.paraglidingforum.com/alltopics.php Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites