brianfry713 0 #1 October 16, 2007 http://www.performancedesigns.com/pdzone/videosspireteaser.asp http://www.performancedesigns.com/ Looks like a ground launch canopy.BASE 1224, Senior Parachute Rigger, CPL ASEL IA, AGI, IGI USPA Coach & UPT Tandem Instructor, PRO, Altimaster Field Support Representative Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
P-dro 0 #2 October 16, 2007 I was wondering how it comes there was no talk here of this canopy ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kolla 0 #3 October 16, 2007 Hey Brian, I think you might be on to something here :)Blue Skies Magazine Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dploi 0 #4 October 16, 2007 NICE! Will it not be $3,000? Please? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KEVINLOVE 0 #5 October 17, 2007 What if it was far less expensive?? whatt if it also flew faster, better??? just a thought.... hmmmm K Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dploi 0 #6 October 22, 2007 It's great to some more wings getting into the market from the "skydiving side". The GLX is nice, but $3k is too much for not an extremely noticeable performance boost over HP skydiving canopies, IMO (don't me wrong, it's been the best GL wing for awhile). With this and that Russian Aeros showing up, looks like we'll finally get to see performance go up and prices go down due to competition. :) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yoink 321 #7 October 23, 2007 It'll be interesting to see what flight characteristics the Spire has... I'm really hoping for a high-performance wing that handles in a similar way to skydive wings, but has a much improved glide - something around 1:5 would be nice! Not too much to ask! The paraglider-type wings like the Nano and Bullet seem to have a generally better glide ratio than some of the flatter, faster skydive style wings at the moment, but they lose massive amounts of height in toggle turns due to the high roll component which I'm not a fan of. Yaw on toggles, pitch on risers please! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sysop 0 #8 October 23, 2007 Some photo from GL Camp #11 in USA. I think, it aprox 120-130 ft.www.speedflying.ru Mountian Fly School Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kitesurfa 0 #9 October 23, 2007 Cheers for posting attached photos, couldn't find them on Jim's website.... http://www.speed-flying.com - No:1 for the worldwide Speed-Riding Community Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dploi 0 #10 October 24, 2007 Quote Russian Aeros Ukrainian, sorry. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DesertDevil 1 #11 November 9, 2007 Paragliding manufactueres make nice speed wings. Here is a link to my favorite speed wing--the HellRacer. http://www.liquidair.org.uk/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=77&Itemid=85 It's less than half the price of ground launch canopies. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
floormonkey 0 #12 January 4, 2008 New stuff. Anyone know a price? http://www.performancedesigns.com/Spire/spire.asp Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
superwoman8433 0 #13 January 4, 2008 Kevin Love is the US dealer for the Spire. His email is canopyflightpro@hotmail.com and his cell phone is 916-747-4876. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
packing_jarrett 0 #14 January 5, 2008 I want to know if the spire is made out of sail or not.Na' Cho' Cheese Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KennC 0 #15 January 5, 2008 This has really sparked an interest in me, .. an older Fury 220, would it make for a good begining canopy for ground lauching, if you weighed 163 Lbs say? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dploi 0 #16 January 5, 2008 QuoteThis has really sparked an interest in me, .. an older Fury 220, would it make for a good begining canopy for ground lauching, if you weighed 163 Lbs say?Yes. For light winds and not-too-steep hill, this would be a great trainer for someone without a lot of (or maybe no) canopy experience. I had a Fox 245 for just this. Rule of thumb: don't ground launch what you wouldn't skydive/BASE. Some exceptions apply. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KennC 0 #17 January 5, 2008 QuoteQuoteThis has really sparked an interest in me, .. an older Fury 220, would it make for a good begining canopy for ground lauching, if you weighed 163 Lbs say?Yes. For light winds and not-too-steep hill, this would be a great trainer for someone without a lot of (or maybe no) canopy experience. I had a Fox 245 for just this. Rule of thumb: don't ground launch what you wouldn't skydive/BASE. Some exceptions apply. Thanks dploi, .. "not to steep of hill" ?? could you expand on that thought, thanks ... I jump and fly a Triathlon 190 now. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dploi 0 #18 January 8, 2008 QuoteThanks dploi, .. "not to steep of hill" ?? could you expand on that thought, thanks ... I jump and fly a Triathlon 190 now. When you first start learning, do not try to launch from a hill that is so steep that you couldn't run down it without a parachute. Once you have experience and confidence in your abilities to launch, you can launch anything, including sheer cliffs, if the conditions are right. For now... don't choose a hill you aren't willing or able to run *all the way* down (which will very likely happen a lot at first). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KennC 0 #19 January 8, 2008 Hi dploi and thanks, I really appreciate this. When I was a kid living in BC we used to run down hills for fun, see how fast we could get going .. there is a bit of an art to it. You wouldn't guess as to what the glide angle of this Fury 220 would be, roughly, with 165 lbs hanging off it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dploi 0 #20 January 11, 2008 QuoteYou wouldn't guess as to what the glide angle of this Fury 220 would be, roughly, with 165 lbs hanging off it.Pretty damn flat in no/little wind, I'd image. You'll want to fly in very light to nil winds with that wingloading, anyway, if you want to get off the ground safely (not getting dragged up hill or thrown over the top -- it happens -- believe me). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KennC 0 #21 January 13, 2008 Thanks dploi, we have qute a variety of hills around here to choose from, finding the right areas to progress along shouldn't be too tough ... I reserved the canopy the other day, getting pretty excited about this. I have a buddy of mine who has refused to even come out to the DZ just to hang out .. he said the other day he would try this with me (short hills first!!), I know once he starts flying, even short distances, he is going to love it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yoink 321 #22 January 14, 2008 If your buddy isn't already a pilot he has no business starting groundlaunching unless he gets some proper instruction. All the videos on the internet make it look easy and safe - it isn't. It uses skills across different flying disciplines to fly close to the ground which hurts when it goes wrong. I keep seeing posts in various forums along the lines of 'this looks like a great way to get cheap canopy experience'... it's worrying. Get good at flying, THEN go ground launching. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KennC 0 #23 January 14, 2008 Hi yionk, thanks .. caution is indeed the word of the day, dplois advice will be taken seriously. There is a chap who visits our dz from BC who has done a lot of this in the mountains, he should be a good resource as well. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dploi 0 #24 January 15, 2008 If you can't find an experienced speedflyer, I'm sure there is a paragliding school in your area. I'd go there, explain what you're trying to do, and get some basic instruction on kiting and foot launching. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KEVINLOVE 0 #25 January 15, 2008 Canopy Flight Pro will be offering instructional camps as well as boogies in the spring, possibly sooner. Canopyflightpro.com will be up and running before the end of this month with dates and costs. The camps will be held in Hollister Ca. Blade running will also be avaiable for those qulified ( hop n pops , above G.L. site with courses set up) Blade running and G.L. boogies and instrucion. Feel free to e mail me with any questions. Canopyflightpro@hotmail.com See ya all soon! Kevin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites