pop 0 #1 December 29, 2002 This happened to me 2 days ago. I hooked up my stiletto to my new rig. I had someone watching me as I was hooking it up. I did 3 checks to make sure the canopy was hooked up properly. After an uneventful hop n pop I deployed at 3000 into 3 line twists. My canopy begun to spin but I was able to get out of the line twist. I thught everything was good to go when I realized I fucked up. The front and the back risers were wrapped around each other twice on both sides. My first thought was will the three rings release properly if I cutaway. Then I decided to go ahead and relaese the breaks and see if I can fly this canopy. I was able to turn and flare it so I went on to land it. The landing was uneventful.7 ounce wonders, music and dogs that are not into beer Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dterrick 0 #2 December 29, 2002 [email]blue ones Pop! I hada similar situation under my Raven (main) and I think you hit on a good point about the controlability check as well as the gear check. In my case, I'd had dive loops put on my my rigger and he "told" me he'd not repacked the main but just removed it from the container. I got lazy and did not repack the main. Somehow, one of us (likely me) managed a step-through while working with the stowed bag. On deployment I had the twisted risers but an otherwise clean opening. IMMEDIATELY I did my controlability check and found life to be ok. However, if I'd had a broken steering line and needed the risers I'd have been FUBAR'd and would have chopped. Of course in both our cases the main flight was fine but one emergency procedure option was removed. your post reminded me how vital it is that we have a clear calm head at all times inflight AND while packing. ...AND that time "saved" (bet you did a pro-pack line check and not a 2 sided flat pack line check) can come back to "bight" us . Thanks for the reminder. Dave Life is very short and there's no time for fussing and fighting my friend (Lennon/McCartney) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,000 #3 December 30, 2002 >I did 3 checks to make sure the canopy was hooked up properly. You ran three full four-line checks and the canopy was _still_ hooked up incorrectly? Wow. It's hard to even propack a canopy that's hooked up backwards/inverted without noticing - what do you think happened that let you miss it during the checks? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RichM 0 #4 December 30, 2002 Quote>I did 3 checks to make sure the canopy was hooked up properly. You ran three full four-line checks and the canopy was _still_ hooked up incorrectly? Wow. It's hard to even propack a canopy that's hooked up backwards/inverted without noticing - what do you think happened that let you miss it during the checks? Ditto, if I were you I spend some time with a rigger analysing your check procedure, because it clearly isn't working.Rich M Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
councilman24 37 #5 December 30, 2002 You need a better "someone" to watch you. I once watched a couple of guys with 200 - 300 jumps hook up a new main. They didn't ask my advice (I was their rigger) so I didn't offer it. They spent about an hour trying to decide that it was on right. He packed it, jumped it, and it was on backwards. (Side pack, Billvon.) They never looked below the links to see if the right side was on the right riser. It's possible to do a complete line check from the risers in about a minute if the canopy is laid out straight on its side. Have "someone" else show you what to look for. Good job getting it landed. If the risers were simply twisted or flipped through themselves the three ring should have been unaffected. The concern is whether the brakes lines are restricted. You checked, it worked, you landed plan A. I'm old for my age. Terry Urban D-8631 FAA DPRE Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pop 0 #6 January 2, 2003 Quote>I did 3 checks to make sure the canopy was hooked up properly. You ran three full four-line checks and the canopy was _still_ hooked up incorrectly? Wow. It's hard to even propack a canopy that's hooked up backwards/inverted without noticing - what do you think happened that let you miss it during the checks? I am not sure, but it did teach me a lesson. You can never be too careful. It made me more aware of the little things I do. I have to pay more attention.7 ounce wonders, music and dogs that are not into beer Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
narcimund 0 #7 January 2, 2003 I think their point is that you don't need to pay more attentino so much as you need to know what you're looking for. If you're not aware of what signs indicate right and wrong, you can stare with your eyes propped wide open for twice as long as you did and still end up where you did. On the other hand, someone who knows to follow this line to here and that line to there can do a perfect, confident check in just a few seconds. First Class Citizen Twice Over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
