distance from the gates to...

[ridebmxbikes 0]

About to get a new(to me) canopy and was wondering. On a typical pond course how for is it from the gates to dry land ? And how far is the accuracy zone from the gates? I know they vary and you can make a target however far you want from the gates but was just wondering what the average was.

[ianyapxw 0]

erm...

Isn't it better to call up your frequented DZs? Or is it you travel a lot?

[ridebmxbikes 0]

Don't get to travel a lot. Work, jump too much to travel any so on. It would be a while before I had the chance to hit a pond but figured it could be a good goal to look forward to in the future. I guess I could ask my next canopy coach whenever he decides to do another course but I figured why not post in some forms and see if I could get a generalized answer.

[hokierower 0]

Zone acc and distance are 44m.


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Many things about this post sound like a recipe for trouble.

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ridebmxbikes

About to get a new(to me) canopy and was wondering. On a typical pond course how for is it from the gates to dry land ? And how far is the accuracy zone from the gates? I know they vary and you can make a target however far you want from the gates but was just wondering what the average was.

first getting a new canopy doesn't mean you are ready to start going for gates. GET CANOPY COACHING! seriously.

but if you really want to get into competitive swooping. Start here.
http://swoopleague.com/historyabout/rules-courses/

[ridebmxbikes 0]

Haha, I take every course that becomes available. I'm always down for a course. I'm not gonna push getting the longest swoop and hitting the gates till I get use to this wing but I don't think it'll take that long. Hitting the gates isn't new to me. I can usually hit them... At least where I jump at. If I go somewhere else that would be a different story

[dqpacker 7]

ridebmxbikes

Haha, I take every course that becomes available. I'm always down for a course. I'm not gonna push getting the longest swoop and hitting the gates till I get use to this wing but I don't think it'll take that long. Hitting the gates isn't new to me. I can usually hit them... At least where I jump at. If I go somewhere else that would be a different story

never mind, you are not ready.

[ridebmxbikes 0]

for competition... No. But nothing that a thousand jumps can't fix

[craddock 0]

dqpacker

. Hitting the gates isn't new to me. I can usually hit them... At least where I jump at. If I go somewhere else that would be a different story

never mind, you are not ready.

Nope. Your not ready to start hitting gates until you can already consistently hit the gates everytime. Then you are ready to start.

That spot isn't bad at all, the winds were strong and that was the issue! It was just on the downwind side.

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craddock

Your not ready to start hitting gates until you can already consistently hit the gates everytime.

Explain how that is in any way meaningful advice.

You are effectively saying that you can't try to hit gates until you have hit all the gates you have tried to hit.

My advice is don't try to learn this alone - get coaching.

"The ground does not care who you are. It will always be tougher than the human behind the controls."

~ CanuckInUSA

[ridebmxbikes 0]

Thanks doc, I wasn't even gonna respond to another negative comment. While I to try to set up my initiation to hit gates Im not concentrating on them through the swoop which is why I don't always hit them. Working on power and distance and most importantly staying alive and keeping my femors intact! I asked a simple question about distance from... Not a how to hit gates or how to anything.I appreciate the actual answer to the question I asked. Thanks!

[hokierower 0]

What canopy? Your profile says you're flying a Stiletto 107...not an ideal canopy for modern swooping techniques.

[ridebmxbikes 0]

Oh, my bad, I only had that thing for 30 jumps. I have a katana 107 now. I came from a katana 120.

[craddock 0]

DocPop

*** Your not ready to start hitting gates until you can already consistently hit the gates everytime.

Explain how that is in any way meaningful advice.

You are effectively saying that you can't try to hit gates until you have hit all the gates you have tried to hit.

My advice is don't try to learn this alone - get coaching.

Apparently you only read my post not what I quoted. It was sarcasm for the post above that irritated me. Putting the OP down. But since the OP didn't get that either perhaps I was wrong and should not have stuck up for him!!!!!

That spot isn't bad at all, the winds were strong and that was the issue! It was just on the downwind side.

[craddock 0]

ridebmxbikes

Thanks doc, I wasn't even gonna respond to another negative comment. While I to try to set up my initiation to hit gates Im not concentrating on them through the swoop which is why I don't always hit them. Working on power and distance and most importantly staying alive and keeping my femors intact! I asked a simple question about distance from... Not a how to hit gates or how to anything.I appreciate the actual answer to the question I asked. Thanks!

Nothing negative about it. I was on your side. My mistake.

My quote attempt didn't turn out right though. The first line of my response should have been in the quote and was actually what I was speaking out about. The rest was sarcasm. I am truly sorry I tried to have your back. Shouldn't have been that hard to see. Everybody here wants to fight and get on there high horse. Try to get someones back and everyone assumes they are just one more of the same. No wonder what this place has become. Whatever

That spot isn't bad at all, the winds were strong and that was the issue! It was just on the downwind side.

[craddock 0]

DocPop

*** Your not ready to start hitting gates until you can already consistently hit the gates everytime.

Explain how that is in any way meaningful advice.

You are effectively saying that you can't try to hit gates until you have hit all the gates you have tried to hit.

My advice is don't try to learn this alone - get coaching.

click on the Post I responded to and then see if you cant figure out my point. I wasn't the ASS. Not to him anyway. To the one putting him down.

That spot isn't bad at all, the winds were strong and that was the issue! It was just on the downwind side.

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My bad - I totally missed your sarcasm.

Apologies to you, sir.

"The ground does not care who you are. It will always be tougher than the human behind the controls."

~ CanuckInUSA

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What you loading the 107 at? Is that the new canopy? How many jumps are you doing on a canopy before switching it?
Landing video always appreciated.

Life is ez
On the dz
Every jumper's dream
3 rigs and an airstream

[ridebmxbikes 0]

My apologies as well. I also didn't catch the sarcasm. It can be hard to catch in a written form sometimes.

[ridebmxbikes 0]

Loading the 107 almost 1.5. Ill be on this canopy for several hundred jumps. No future plans on switching anytime soon. Just glad to be back on another katana. Just got it a 11am yesterday and only got 4 jumps in on it. I can get a video if you want but there won't be much to see, I still getting use to it and Im not trying to push it hard yet

Ok can't figure out how to put a YouTube link but its dscf0109 about the 8th video down

Third jump on it. The red flag is about 100 feet. I can feel I can get a crap ton more out of it. Just gettin the feel for it

[Pablo.Moreno 0]

I have been checking on the incident forums and also directly from people that have gotten injured.
The common phrase was... Jumper with about 30-100 jumps on that canopy (All in between a saber 150 to a JVX 101) and was doing a 180-270 and was to low.
So, I guess to where the conversation is on it now, don't rush it put at least 100 regular landings on the canopy with out any front riser, get to know it on rears, carving, bail out, pattern flying from any position, etc, etc. Get to do drills to build an average of lost altitude in a 90, 180 etc. All up high.

After you feel a little more comfortable on your current wing, start doing some crosswind and light down winds. Make sure you know how to slide.

When I got my current canopy JVX 94, now 130 jumps, had one low turn and was able to come out just fine.

It is amazing the sight picture you develop on the "I am to low" situations. In my current training schedule I will be doing 3 drills of 90s 10 second delay on 10 jumps to build an average.
and do 90s until I can perfect them and move on.

As, everyone said, get some coaching and, If you have read Bryan Burks articles, Swooping is not a safe discipline, but you can try to increase your safety through patience, and building up your skill and knowledge, never swoop hung over or tired and always remember: you don't have to swoop on every jump, but you can always swoop on the next jump.

Eddit: for grammar, and I apologize on my Anglish

[craigbey 0]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwDOsUfEqSk

[ridebmxbikes 0]

Some wise words. I can't promise Im gonna stay off my fronts but Im not gonna do any 180's or 270's for a while.

Craigbey- thanks for the tip!

[Pablo.Moreno 0]

I guess I forgot about the part of,

Once you feel a bit more comfortable with the canopy, try doing 90s with harness. To feed my need of going a little bit faster on landings what I have been doing on the JVX is 90s with just harness starting pretty high, slow, snappy or both, because of the nature of the canopy and slow recovery arch, even when I would turn obviously high it would still carry on some speed for landings.

I had my bottom deck altitude where I wouldn't do a harness turn, where, If would do a turn I would still would be safe, but I didn't want to run the risk (this was for intentional turns obviously)