Triple risers

[SkydiveMonkey 0]

I've read through the previous posts about trips. Is there any way I could "demo" a set of trips to compare against my regulat set or risers to see for myself what the differences are?

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[Kirils 1]

Looking at your profile, I don't think they would make a difference. After you have 1000 jumps and you choose to downsize to highly loaded x-braced or elipitical and you swoop another 1000 jumps...then you might see a noticable improvement in swoop performance with the trips. Until then, it's a waste of money. Loosening your chest strap will work almost as well on a swoop.

[AggieDave 6]

And for most (almost all) applications, loosing your chest strap does nothing for you unless you pull your slider down too. Otherwise the canopy won't spread out past the size of the slider.

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[SkydiveMonkey 0]

Doesn't everyone do this

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[skygod7777 0]

dude, triple risers do nothing for you. i had them, and they didn't add to my swoop at all. they did nothing. i don't recomend them. do what they have said above, that will help more than anything.

just my $.02

later

[AggieDave 6]

It was explained to me that with regular risers, you're getting some "free lift" by being able to use your toggles to deflect your rear risers some. When entering the swoop, and starting to pull the toggles, if you have your arms back some, you're deflecting the rear risers *some* slightly flatting out glide of your canopy.

Once again, that was just as it was explained to me, not to be taken as gospel.

I'd love it if someone could either reinforce that theory or disprove it for me.

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[skygod7777 0]

dude, your so right it's not even funny

when you put your hands back to flare, you are pulling down on your rear risers (pulling them out) and it give almost the same effect as flaring with rears. you still pull down the tail just a bit, but mostly it would be rear risers doing the work.

edit: look at the pic in this forum, this is what i'm talking about

http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?do=post_attachment;postatt_id=3499;

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[AggieDave 6]

Like this...

Edit: (heh, we both posted pics at about the same time...*shrug*)

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[skygod7777 0]

ya, like that.

later

[hookitt 1]

Less tail deflection during front riser approaches. MUCH Less brake line wear since it's not dragging against the guide ring. Rear riser landings can very well be done by using the rear risers. There is no trouble swooping on just toggle input when you get to the point of learning how to swoop. Very comfortable to fly with. They take some jumps to get used to. Open collapse the slider and pull it down behind your head. Then clear the brakes as per usual.

Some people like em some don't. Some don't have a clue they even exist. I like them and wouldn't jump regular risers on a skydiving rig. But what do I know?

Try em see if you like em. Give them a chance. (yes I've seen the profile)

Edit to add loosen the chest strap after the slider is down , as already suggested.

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[SkydiveMonkey 0]

I already do that. I'm just wondering if there's any way I can try them out before I fork over £60 for a set.

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[SkydiveMonkey 0]

Oh, and what's the best way to pack em?

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[skydivinmartin 0]

I started jumping triple risers last year. I agree with Dave - loosening the chest strap (after bringing the slider down) will make the most difference in improving your swoop. I got them for the feel rather than a boost in canopy performance - I wanted to spread my hands wide while swooping to improve my balance, and without triples the friction from the guide ring made that uncomfortable. But at the time, I wasn't opening up the chest strap. Note that almost none of the guys competing in pro swoop these days use triples.

Martin

[rigging65 0]

Actually, what I like best about triples is the feel you get for what the canopy is doing. Of course, you have to be flying with a pretty good wingloading and have the experience to feel it, but....

When the breaklines run through the riser-mounted rings the risers dampen some of the movement and vibrations felt through the lines. Triples take a bit to get used to though and it's important that you flare with both arms the same way (ie- toggles mirror each other's position as you engage them) or you'll end up sliding off your line on final...something which can be useful for putting yourself back on your line if needed...

As for the price, your existing risers can be converted for much less than what you quoted. Any competent rigger can add triples, in about 45 minutes.

Personally, all my rigs have removable triples on them so that I can convert if I need to (Larksheaded 1000lb Spectra for the third leg, with a permanently attached loop at the bottom of the riser...this also allows you to stow your breaks conventionally as the Spectra stays out of the way)...although I don't think I'd take them for many reasons.

One point to watch: If your lower-break lines are built in the two-piece style (ie- a cat's-eye loop with a toggle attachment section hanging off of it) you may find that the cat's-eye hangs up on the ring of the third-leg at the most inopportune times...like when you're finishing your flare. It doesn't really retard the flare, as the third legs moves along with you as your toggles, but it sure feels funky. On continuous break lines, like on the Xaos, they work just perfectly though!

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[SkydiveMonkey 0]

Ok, I have a set coming. Anything else I should be aware of? Lower control range etc?

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[bbarnhouse 0]

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Ok, I have a set coming

I would advise that you wait until you have more jumps before embarking on a set of triple risers for reasons stated above.
Don't be in such a hurry....you have lots of time to jump!

[skygod7777 0]

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Ok, I have a set coming. Anything else I should be aware of? Lower control range etc?

make sure you follow the directions packing them, they are easy to screw up.

other than that, your flare seems to be a bit deeper than usall, so practice while your up high.

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[AndyMan 7]

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Ok, I have a set coming.

Why....?

Seriously, what do you expect to get from them?

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[skygod7777 0]

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Why....?

Seriously, what do you expect to get from them?

now i don't know why he want them, but when i got mine i did because i thought they looked cool.



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[SkydiveMonkey 0]

I'm not expecting that much to be honest. I want to see how they compare to normal risers.

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