dzswoop717 5 #1 September 28, 2015 In 1972 the first square parachute showed up at our DZ, I was 10 years old and completely enfactuated with it. It was A Baby Para Plane. All the experienced guys started to experiment with it. One 16 year old D licence holder, George Whittington, Experimented the most and started messing with front riser turns and double front riser input to penetrate heavy winds. We often talked about how he was sure that the canopy gained a few feet of altitude when coming out of a turn or when flairing from a front riser dive. Back then he didn't dare try any of these techniques while landing. A few years later the Strato Star came out and George started using a toggle turn to gain speed to get a better flair out of the canopy. He used this method until he got a 7 Cell at which time he got serious about deep brake accuracy and the different modifications to make a canopy more stable in deep brakes. Fast fwd to 1981, I had just bought my first very used square canopy. It was a worn out Unit 1. It didn't have much flare when you flew in at full flight and flared . I talked with George and started experimenting with what he had been trying a few years earlier. I put about 100 jumps on that rag and could get a standup most of the time by pulling both front risers down and letting them go a little before it was time to flare, there was no surf or altitude gain, It just helped enough to make the landings a little softer. I bought a new Unit 2 and on the first jump used the double front riser trick and experienced my first surf and staged flair because I felt like I was going back up when I flared so I held what I had and flew 10' across the ground before finishing my flare. I was on to something. I jumped at a small dz and didn't even know if anyone else was using this technique for landing. Several canopy changes later and after discovering the front riser hook turn on my 9 cell I was getting 50 feet or more swoops. I met Bill Legard at the Herd Boogie. I saw him come in for the first swoop landing I had ever witnessed, the rest I had done myself and no one in my little world of jumping did this kind of dangerous stuff. I watched Bill and realized he was leaps and bounds ahead of me with his technique. I talked with him and watched and learned. A couple of years later the Xcaliber crossed braced canopy came out then shortly after that Zero P material was invented. Swooping was being perfected by many people all over the world. I never got into competition but, have had a great time swooping my different canopies over the last 30 plus years. My question is Who were the real pioneers of swooping and where and when did it originate. I consider Bill to be my first commrade of this type of canopy flight and a pioneer, but I am sure there were many more way more advanced than us. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peek 21 #2 September 28, 2015 dzswoop717My question is Who were the real pioneers of swooping and where and when did it originate? My first exposure to it was in 1982 when Roger Nelson and a bunch of experienced jumpers brought the "Mr. Douglas" DC-3 to Archway Skydiving in Sparta, IL for an event. I saw a guy (name unknown) do a hook turn and it scared the shit out of me. I thought he was going to crash. Then again, I don't recall much of a "swoop" or planing out. It just went fast and then he landed. I recall that when I got my new Raven 3 canopy that it would plane out well, but after a few hundred jumps it no longer did. I think that what we call "swooping" now started with zero porosity fabric canopies and better airfoil designs, perhaps with the original Sabre canopy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dqpacker 7 #3 September 28, 2015 I always heard Rickster Powell (sp) was one of the first to do modern hook turns. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chuckakers 425 #4 September 29, 2015 dqpackerI always heard Rickster Powell (sp) was one of the first to do modern hook turns. Hooks date back to PC's, but DQ has this one. Rickster was absolutely one of if not "the guy" that kicked off swooping as we know it today. He was pulling off stuff in the late 80's and early 90's that seemed impossible and his style was emulated by many who would become the early pioneers. In all fairness though, JC Colclasure needs some credit too. His killer work in the early Ranch pond swoop meets and throughout the discipline in general were epic. Even today the best in the world are glad he is retired from competition.Chuck Akers D-10855 Houston, TX Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stayhigh 2 #5 September 29, 2015 Who was the first to trust the rears?Bernie Sanders for President 2016 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dzswoop717 5 #6 September 29, 2015 I have a picture some where of Paul Jackson landing his Fury at the 82nd Parachute Club, after a 180 hook turn, using rear risers. It was in 1985 when we were getting our AFF ratings. He used them all the time. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stayhigh 2 #7 September 30, 2015 Cool. Never thought that someone was using rear back in 80's.... next, who claims first blindman?Bernie Sanders for President 2016 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dqpacker 7 #8 September 30, 2015 Blindman was Jeffro Provenzano I thought. If it wasn't him, he perfected it. And I think he was the first to do a miracle man. I know those Frenchies Fred and Vince have been doing them forever too. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
keithbar 1 #9 October 3, 2015 stayhigh Cool. Never thought that someone was using rear back in 80's.... hell I used to use the rears. all the time back in the eighties. but that was usually because my ragged out heavyweight Strato cloud had broken the steering line.i have on occasion been accused of pulling low . My response. Naw I wasn't low I'm just such a big guy I look closer than I really am . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jumpwally 0 #10 February 9, 2016 That was none other than Jim Bohr....smile, be nice, enjoy life FB # - 1083 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
piisfish 140 #11 February 11, 2016 dqpackerBlindman was Jeffro Provenzano I thought. If it wasn't him, he perfected it. And I think he was the first to do a miracle man. I know those Frenchies Fred and Vince have been doing them forever too.I think if you ask Jeffro he will tell you that Andy Farrington was his inspirationscissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bob_Church 7 #12 August 20, 2016 I remember when the Unit came out it was the first canopy a lot of us had ever seen that would actually fly forward a few feet when you flared it. We discusses whether it was a bug or a feature. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites