AiRpollUtiOn 0 #1 June 27, 2002 Hey, Lately I'm training RW with a few friends, there is one guy that's always there for RW 2 practice, so we jump a lot together. We put cats in every jump, but I can't get my backslide right. I turn away 180° , keep eye contact, keep level, but I only seem to slide forward. Anyone have hints other than "put your legs on your ass"???"Don't make me come down there" - God. My site:http://www.skystudio.nl/video.html Some of my vids: http://www.youtube.com/user/TomSkyStudio Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Remster 30 #2 June 27, 2002 Its just guesses since we cant see what your doing, but here goes.... First, I dont really like calling that move a back in.... this implies that you need to back in to do the move, which you dont. Its just (yeah, just) a 180 deg center turn. What probably is happening (again, i dont know) is that you probably (notice the double probable) doing a knee turn (ie most of your turn is being generated by your shoulders). This puts the rotation point on you knees, and since your knees are far away from his hands, you end up far away. Concentrate on putting in more knees in your turns. It might help.Remster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stacy 0 #3 June 27, 2002 also you may want to try a slightly different movement in your legs. INstead of simply dropping a knee down as a rudder, imagine pushing it out and down on approx a 45 degree angle. resistance is in the thigh and on the bootie area of your suit. This countered with forearms (with practice) will result in a nice center turn.... hard to explain in words, but watch a vid of some good 4way teams flying and it's easy to visualize there. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weid14 0 #4 June 27, 2002 In actuality, going to a cat is a forward move anyway, not a center point turn. doing a center point turn leaves your legs to close to the other person, like a donut build, you need to move forward into it. (nut not overly so) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AiRpollUtiOn 0 #5 June 27, 2002 Yeah, okay, I think I didn't get my message clear, when I'm in position and looking behind, and the other jumper doesn't take my grips, I start moving forward slowly and I'm having difficulties to stop this, the turn itself isn't the problem anymore since I got some advise on that in another post. Getting on a creeper with my feet on a chair really helped a lot!"Don't make me come down there" - God. My site:http://www.skystudio.nl/video.html Some of my vids: http://www.youtube.com/user/TomSkyStudio Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weid14 0 #6 June 27, 2002 if you don't put a stop on your turns momentum will continue to take you away from the center. you need to put jsut as much energy into the stop as the start of the turn. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
antimike 0 #7 June 28, 2002 Quoteand the other jumper doesn't take my grips Why dosen't the other jumper take your grips? Is it because your sliding away, Or do you think it's because you haven't finished your turn. One of the bigest prolems with a back-in is, you do your head switch & don't finish your turn You have to keep your spine straight when your looking behind.. If it is a true problem of sliding out after you finish your turn then your turning and puting your legs out to much after you finish, but a true back-in is really just a 180 or 90 degree turn. Make sure before you commit to your turn know where the peson is your shooting to and know their set. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mwthomsen 0 #8 June 30, 2002 You mention you are slowly moving forward and you are having problems stopping this forward movement. In a nuetral position you shouldn't be moving forward. Sense you feel your legs are in a good position assuming from your earlier comment that you don't want to put your feet on your butt, try extending your arms to stop that forwad movement. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
antimike 0 #9 July 1, 2002 Quotetry extending your arms to stop that forwad movement Don't think I wuld do that it's hard to fly with your arms extended, not a natural position. Just take your time and finish your turn, with your spine straight Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AiRpollUtiOn 0 #10 July 1, 2002 I don't know how, but in the 9 jumps this weekend I got to solve the problem, I even used backslides to get into position when going from open accordion on the other's right side arm grip to open accordeon on left side with 360 between the open acc.'s I don't understand how I'm able to do a backslide, and stay in position for f.e. a cat, but I've got it under controle now."Don't make me come down there" - God. My site:http://www.skystudio.nl/video.html Some of my vids: http://www.youtube.com/user/TomSkyStudio Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weid14 0 #11 July 1, 2002 aarrrgghhhhh!!!! you should be moving your center point along a line, you shouldn't have to "backslide" in at all, we do about a million drills in the tunnel for this. think about moving center point where it needs to be, not about placing your grips on some one else, if your center point is in the correct location, and your partners is too, grips are easy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Remster 30 #12 July 2, 2002 see Weid.. thats why I hate the term back-in... lol... its the worse description for that move ever!Remster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Snowflake 0 #13 July 2, 2002 not that I'm an expert I had the same problem (still do sometimes)but the best advice I got was put your leg in his hand don't think about what you have to do in the air just do it. Look over your sholder and look your leg into his hand don't think "I'm going to do a 180 and back in". I think this makes me use my legs more so I don't float off and then have to back in. Hope this helps It's helped me a ton Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
