Skymonkey2 0 #1 February 25, 2003 Hey all, look out this year for the upcomming 4 way team from Cincinnati OH, Team Fastrax. Training very hard. and planing to win the Intermiedate at Nationals this year, be watching for them.AFFI-E, Tandem I-E, S/L I-E, IAD I-E, Coach I-E Students are our future teach them well Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #2 February 25, 2003 I've seen these guys a few times (they were on the USPA website with their helmets not long ago) and they are looking good last summer as a new team. Sharp rigs on all of them too. Can't miss any of their canopies. What was the final team make up? Is Bob A going to be competing full time this summer?Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,026 #3 February 25, 2003 QuoteI've seen these guys a few times (they were on the USPA website with their helmets not long ago) and they are looking good last summer as a new team. Sharp rigs on all of them too. Can't miss any of their canopies. What was the final team make up? Is Bob A going to be competing full time this summer? Helmets and sharp rigs, eh? They'll be unbeatable!... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Enrique 0 #4 February 25, 2003 It's not how good you are, but how good you look! Isn't it? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weid14 0 #5 February 25, 2003 Quote It's not how good you are, but how good you look! Isn't it? so true.. its all about the mind games Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,026 #6 February 25, 2003 QuoteIt's not how good you are, but how good you look! Isn't it? Style and accuracy. Style: how good you look, and accuracy: getting on the right plane.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,026 #7 February 25, 2003 Quote Quote It's not how good you are, but how good you look! Isn't it? so true.. its all about the mind games Not on my team... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skymonkey2 0 #8 March 10, 2003 got money on this team, any takers AFFI-E, Tandem I-E, S/L I-E, IAD I-E, Coach I-E Students are our future teach them well Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisG 0 #9 March 11, 2003 Yes, I'll bet you $500 you dont win. Chris Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
psw097 0 #10 March 11, 2003 Rules at Nationals should be: 1. Matching jumpsuits and helmets - Advanced class 2. Matching rigs plus Jumpsuits, etc. - Open class 3. Teams that bring their own Otter - Hand out tax refunds to the taxpayers attending. Leave intermediate class to those teams with hangovers. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,026 #11 March 12, 2003 QuoteRules at Nationals should be: 1. Matching jumpsuits and helmets - Advanced class 2. Matching rigs plus Jumpsuits, etc. - Open class 3. Teams that bring their own Otter - Hand out tax refunds to the taxpayers attending. Leave intermediate class to those teams with hangovers. How about the guys with tee-shirts over their jumpsuits to adjust fall-rate? We have two of them on our team.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
psw097 0 #12 March 12, 2003 Depends on if you have matching jumpsuits and if the tee-shirts match the jumpsuits. - if it all matches you need to get an exemption by promising to compete with a hangover. We just have 3/4 the team wearing weights because we like burning extra jet-A. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,026 #13 March 12, 2003 QuoteDepends on if you have matching jumpsuits and if the tee-shirts match the jumpsuits. - if it all matches you need to get an exemption by promising to compete with a hangover. We just have 3/4 the team wearing weights because we like burning extra jet-A. Umm - we were "Open", hangover not required. I suppose we could have a complete set of matching tee-shirts, to go with the Pro-Tech helmets.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skymonkey2 0 #14 March 14, 2003 Defently beat you guys LMAO and everything matches AFFI-E, Tandem I-E, S/L I-E, IAD I-E, Coach I-E Students are our future teach them well Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BikerBabe 0 #15 March 14, 2003 "Humility must always be the portion of any man who receives acclaim earned in the blood of his followers and the sacrifices of his friends." - Dwight D. Eisnehower Never meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skymonkey2 0 #16 April 22, 2003 Yea Bob is flying slot, John, Dave and Nicklas. With myself flying vid. Have a ggod one> LaterAFFI-E, Tandem I-E, S/L I-E, IAD I-E, Coach I-E Students are our future teach them well Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
prepheckt 0 #17 April 23, 2003 Quote watch out for the Air Force though, they're pretty good, and their coaches are outstanding Yeah....Go Air Force!"Dancing Argentine Tango is like doing calculus with your feet." -9 toes Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
arlo 0 #18 April 23, 2003 Quote "Humility must always be the portion of any man who receives acclaim earned in the blood of his followers and the sacrifices of his friends." - Dwight D. Eisnehower Nice one, girl....good application as well. Seems i remember a saying: "money does not a skydiver make." Case in point. blues, arlo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skymonkey2 0 #19 May 18, 2003 This is true but with money and proper motivition, anything can be accomplished. Only time will tell. LOLAFFI-E, Tandem I-E, S/L I-E, IAD I-E, Coach I-E Students are our future teach them well Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
arlo 0 #20 May 18, 2003 Quote This is true but with money and proper motivition, anything can be accomplished. Only time will tell. LOL i have to disagree. Some of the best skydivers i know had very little money to train (that's where actual "talent" comes into play). Some of the more self-promoted teams that have visible financial backing still can't pay to be good skydivers and they still suck. But I guess there is something to be said about matching gear...arlo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
base570 1 #21 May 18, 2003 Quote i have to disagree. Some of the best skydivers i know had very little money to train (that's where actual "talent" comes into play). Some of the more self-promoted teams that have visible financial backing still can't pay to be good skydivers and they still suck. But I guess there is something to be said about matching gear...arlo Thanks Arlo I didn't know you cared so much!!! Ha, Ha. Maybe someday I'll be on a team with all matching shit. We came close a couple of times over the last 5 or 6 years but we just couldn'r get or act together. A different rig here and different jumpsuits there were commonplace, I guess if we had matching gear we would have won that whole US Nationals thing . That's how things are decided..... RIGHT??? Maybe, just maybe someday I'll be a cool kid Jason Hope to see you in Early June... I'll be at the tunnel doing a little coaching. Oh... and I WILL be matching. Matching what, I'm not sure. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
arlo 0 #22 May 18, 2003 Hey Jason :) you guys had your heart and soul in it and you had my support all the way...even though we were competing against you. :) How cool is that? Look forward to seeing ya in june. We'll have to make sure you stay on good beeeeeeeehavior. arlo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ptwob231 0 #23 May 19, 2003 and watch out for their team van...these guys got better sponsorship than some open class teams. should be good competition in the intermediate class though. remember matching rigs doesn't make teams good...hard work makes teams good...and you can't buy hard work. maybe some teams don't belong in intermediate but its obvious come game time which teams do and don't (i.e. last years winners in intermediate IMHO). in defense of my air force teams, they are NOT what most people think that they are. they are NOT the GK, they do NOT do 4way as an assignment in the air force. we are jump instructors who volunteer our leave to do competitions. I'm not saying we don't have a good deal, but getting 100 to 150 jumps a year in a 2 year term with the operation does not give much qualification to be in the advanced or open category. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron 10 #24 May 19, 2003 Quote in defense of my air force teams, they are NOT what most people think that they are. they are NOT the GK, they do NOT do 4way as an assignment in the air force. we are jump instructors who volunteer our leave to do competitions. I'm not saying we don't have a good deal, but getting 100 to 150 jumps a year in a 2 year term with the operation does not give much qualification to be in the advanced or open category. 150 jumps is more than I HAVE EVER MADE on a team, and I have gone Open both times. It is more that Nemesis did last year, and I think more than Tunnel Vision did. So, you are like the GK of the intermediate class. Army...Free jumps 1,000 in the OPEN class which is what most serious teams do. AFA....Free jumps 150 in the Intermediate class Which is what most serious teams do.. Army...Free gear AFA....Free gear Army...Their own Aircraft AFA....Their own Aircraft Army...Jumping part of job AFA....Part of job Army...In the military AFA....In the military How are they not the same? They beat the closest to them (Other than the baby killers from Texas) by 14 points. That is the largest gap between any other teams in that class. (Other than Jugernaut which beat Airforce by 15 points). Now you know who I am, I coached them in the tunnel several times. ...They are skilled, dedicated, and in my opinion deserved to win that class. However, I can see how you can be compared to the GK...Hell I call you the GK of intermidiate...You are. You have a sponsorship that many teams wish they could get. Yes they belong in intermediate...But they do have a large advantage. How are they not? Ron"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
base570 1 #25 May 19, 2003 Quote This is true but with money and proper motivition, anything can be accomplished. Only time will tell. LOL Kip, maybe your right with this statement if you are referring to only ONE person in a one person sport. When you start putting 2 or more people together (especially skydivers)things become increasingly more difficult. Money and motivation does NOT make a "team"in the true sense of the word. Nor does matching gear. A successful team is defined by it's actions, not it's words.Those actions being winning medals or just being a positive influence on others in the sport. Those are the truly successful teams. I think your statements here will earn you more non-fans than the fans you seek. Your almost gloating and thumbing your nose at the less fortunate jumpers/teams out there, almost saying... "ha, ha look at me, I have more than you do, and I'm going to make damn sure you know it!!". To me those type of people are really sad; always searching for acceptance and recognition, but somehow always alienating themselves by pushing people to "like" them or "recognize" them. Lose the ego and start to focus in the task at hand, otherwise you/your team just might end up looking like asses at the end of the year when they have no fans and no medals. Just a thought "The EGO is the single most destructive force in society today" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
