ltdiver 3 #1 January 27, 2004 Wow! I'm watching a U.S. Nationals tape from 1988 that I found this weekend and boy am I entertained! The first round of 4-way was out of a Cessna-182! The second round is out of an Otter. Some of the teams get 3 re-jumps on a round! But the most entertaining so far (just 1/2 way through the 2nd round of 4-way so far) is a formation that I've NEVER even heard of before! Any old-timers out there from 1988? It's a block that starts with the inside and outside center's legs locked together and the tail and point in grips to make 'stars' from the IC and OC's hands. The hand grips are dropped and the pieces turn 180's (legs still locked) and the tail and point are re-gripped by the IC and OC in two cats! What the heck? Anyone know the name of this block? And if any other 'leg-grip' randoms or blocks have ever been in our dive pool? Although the teams are only numbered (no names posted by Norman Kent, who made this video), one can definitely pick out the Golden Knights and I believe...AirMoves! Cool video so far! ltdiver Don't tell me the sky's the limit when there are footprints on the moon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
murrays 0 #2 January 27, 2004 I don't remember the name but formations with "leg-locks" were only around for a couple of years and then dropped.-- Murray "No tyranny is so irksome as petty tyranny: the officious demands of policemen, government clerks, and electromechanical gadgets." - Edward Abbey Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ltdiver 3 #3 January 27, 2004 Dang....(same video), the 8-way is out of a DC3 with the videoflyer exiting LAST...following the team out the door! Can't wait to see 16-way (or is that a more recent development?). Bet 10-way is done the 'old fashioned' way (the better way, IMHO). Ah...DC3's, where your jumpsuit is NEVER clean. ltdiver Don't tell me the sky's the limit when there are footprints on the moon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Possum 0 #4 January 27, 2004 Not sure, but I have have had a similar sounding block described to me. It was called a "Venezuelan Connection." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mjasantos 0 #5 January 27, 2004 Hi! Yes, there was a Block 18: Interlock - Venezulan Connection. I've attached a pic of it. Are you talking about this one? Not that I'm that old... Blue Skies! ----------------------------- Mario Santos Portugal Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron 10 #6 January 27, 2004 QuoteNot sure, but I have have had a similar sounding block described to me. It was called a "Venezuelan Connection." Ding, Ding...We have a winner...Unfortunately you didn't phrase it as a question, so we are gonna have to make you buy beer. The GK's used to be able to launch that fucker..amazing. Booties kinda killed those blocks."No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ltdiver 3 #7 January 27, 2004 Yes! That's the one I'm talking about! Finished watching that round with a sense of wonder. Only 2 teams (out of 15) turned the center piece 180. So....I guess the other 13 teams busted that block! It's crazy how they tried to connect those leg locks, though. Only the GK's seem to have it going for them. Glad they took it out of the dive pool. Cann you imagine trying to fly that sucker in the wind tunnel?! ltdiver Don't tell me the sky's the limit when there are footprints on the moon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NeedToJump 0 #8 January 27, 2004 Can you post that video? I've only heard of leg locks, never actually seen them, or tried them for matter...Wind Tunnel and Skydiving Coach http://www.ariperelman.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sdctlc 0 #9 January 27, 2004 Post it, that would be great, but I would like a copy of the video...... Scott C."He who Hesitates Shall Inherit the Earth!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ltdiver 3 #10 January 28, 2004 I'd have to contact Norman Kent first. Ya know, copyrights and all. I'll have to get back with you later. Norm, as you know, is currently pretty busy in Thailand right now. ltdiver Don't tell me the sky's the limit when there are footprints on the moon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
darkwing 5 #11 January 28, 2004 I'd love to get copies of old nationals competitions. Has anyone contacted USPA about this? I'm particularly interested in 1978-79. Ground-based video. -- Jeff My Skydiving History Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #12 January 28, 2004 Quote I'd love to get copies of old nationals competitions. Has anyone contacted USPA about this? I'm particularly interested in 1978-79. Ground-based video. Hopefully the museum will correct a problem that has been around for quite some time. It's almost impossible to find anything about the history of sport via the USPA web site. You'd think that maybe you'd be able to find out all the participants, medal winners and scores, but sadly they don't even do that. Look at any other sport web site, baseball for instance, they have stats going back to Abner.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron 10 #13 January 28, 2004 QuoteHopefully the museum will correct a problem that has been around for quite some time. It's almost impossible to find anything about the history of sport via the USPA web site Thats due to the fact that the USPA is a giant waste. They don't do much of anything. Before people start AOPA did more to get us back in the air after 9/11, and AOPA does more about airport issues than the USPA ever did, or ever will."No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #14 January 28, 2004 QuoteThats due to the fact that the USPA is a giant waste. They don't do much of anything. . But,,,, but,,,, I get that magazine every month that I don't read. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
smooth 0 #15 January 29, 2004 the interlock in action. (see attached photo) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ltdiver 3 #16 January 29, 2004 Quotethe interlock in action. (see attached photo) Yep, that's how the GK's did the first 1/2 of the block. Another team took a completely novel approach and flew the IC/OC piece at an almost side-by-side configuration (legs still locked together, too!). After seeing how nicely the GK's block flowed, the other way looked rather goofy! ltdiver Don't tell me the sky's the limit when there are footprints on the moon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NeedToJump 0 #17 January 29, 2004 QuoteI'll have to get back with you later. Norm, as you know, is currently pretty busy in Thailand right now I don't think he went to Thailand, I'm pretty sure I saw him this past weekendWind Tunnel and Skydiving Coach http://www.ariperelman.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ltdiver 3 #18 January 29, 2004 QuoteQuoteI'll have to get back with you later. Norm, as you know, is currently pretty busy in Thailand right now I don't think he went to Thailand, I'm pretty sure I saw him this past weekend My bad. You're right. What's he doing in FL? ltdiver Don't tell me the sky's the limit when there are footprints on the moon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NeedToJump 0 #19 January 29, 2004 Nothing special, just enjoying the warm, sunny beautiful weather and the wind tunnel Wind Tunnel and Skydiving Coach http://www.ariperelman.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydance1954 0 #20 February 3, 2004 Dude, you may not be that old, but the fact that you've got the move on file is awesome. Would you happen to have a copy of the 1988 pool? I've been trying to amass a complete set.Mike Ashley D-18460 Canadian A-666 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mjasantos 0 #21 February 4, 2004 Hi Mike, The *.jpg files for the 4 and 8-way dive pools of 1988 were too big to post here, so I sent them to your e-mail box (the one in your profile). There are 2 *.jpg files contained in the *.zip file I sent to you. Blue Skies! ----------------------------- Mario Santos Portugal Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FeFe 0 #22 February 4, 2004 Hi Mario! Can I get a copy as well? fyodor_m#yahoo.com Thanks! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mjasantos 0 #23 February 4, 2004 Hi Fyodor, You're welcome! I've just sent a copy to your e-mail box. Anyone else willing as well for a copy of the 4 & 8-way dive pools of 1988, please feel free to send me a PM and I'll be glad to help. Blue Skies! ----------------------------- Mario Santos Portugal Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dgskydive 0 #24 February 10, 2004 Laurie, Dave at SQ1 has a copy of "The Airmoves Story" It has B.C. and them doing that formation more then a few times. It was shot after 1988 but you can see them doing it in there.Dom Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ltdiver 3 #25 February 11, 2004 QuoteLaurie, Dave at SQ1 has a copy of "The Airmoves Story" It has B.C. and them doing that formation more then a few times. It was shot after 1988 but you can see them doing it in there. I have that video as well. I'll have to look at it again as I don't remember seeing this particular block there. Thanks for the tip. :^) Lori Don't tell me the sky's the limit when there are footprints on the moon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
