headoutdaplane 0 #1 September 23, 2005 I have recently returned to flying and as it happens I am flying the otters at SDC. I am wondering what the standards are for competition for the cut, I have been told two different standards by folks (I won't say what they are so as not to skew the answers here). Is there one standard for sanctioned events? or is it set by the meet's organizers (if this is so, what is the most commonly used)? Since I am a freeflyer, I have no clue. Any help would be appreciated. Please do not respond unless you are certain. Thanks, Wes Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dgskydive 0 #2 September 23, 2005 It is in the USPA competition manual. Look it up on there website. Nice tab BTW? Which Bat? Are you sure your Ranger buddies won't make fun of you for begin in an "artistic" discipline?Dom Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Samurai136 0 #3 September 23, 2005 From the USPA Competition manual: 5-1.12: AIRCRAFT A. All aircraft must be similar in configuration, interior, and exterior, as determined by the Meet Director, who is responsible for ensuring that all teams receive an equal aircraft rotation within the limits of aircraft availability. B. Aircraft speed, torque, and flap settings at the time of exit, will be determined by Meet Director and the Chief Pilot, except: 1. Twin Otter: 85 to 95 knots (indicated)inclusive. 2. Cessna: 70 to 90 knots (indicated) inclusive. 3. DC-3: 90 to 100 knots (indicated) inclusive. There ya go! Ken"Buttons aren't toys." - Trillian Ken Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DrewGPM 0 #4 September 23, 2005 That is the rule for Formation Skydiving. Each discipline can have it's own jump run speed. Style and Accuracy rules say: L. Aircraft 1. A variety or combination of aircraft may be used. 2. Aircraft speed at time of exit must not exceed 87 knots (100 mph) indicated. 3. Any slower speed desired will be through mutual agreement of pilot and competitor. The same is used for all the disciplines at the Collegiates.. Rule 7-1.13 I don't see anything listed for the artistic events. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Samurai136 0 #5 September 23, 2005 Yes, you are correct. I made an assumption the question was specific for formation skydiving competition, since he didn't ask in general skydiving discussions. Silly me. Ken"Buttons aren't toys." - Trillian Ken Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ltdiver 3 #6 September 24, 2005 Quote Yes, you are correct. I made an assumption the question was specific for formation skydiving competition, since he didn't ask in general skydiving discussions. Silly me. Ken From headoutdaplane... "...Since I am a freeflyer...". Perhaps he means freeflying? ltdiver Don't tell me the sky's the limit when there are footprints on the moon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
headoutdaplane 0 #7 September 26, 2005 I was asking for the 4 and 8 way stuff, on Saturday I was running at 85 with the left engine at 10, the Furies told me that they were happy with it, so I will keep that. And, if I read the USPA correctly it is set by the meet director for the individual event. Thanks for the input. Wes Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DrewGPM 0 #8 September 26, 2005 He was concerned with RW, so it makes sense to post hear. My point was that there are different rules for each event. There are freeflyers and RW teams training at Skydive Chicago. As I posted, each discipline has it's own rules, so just looking at the RW numbers isn't accurate. Since he said he was hearing two different stories, I am thinking the other story might be coming from a freeflyer. At Nationals the RW and freeflyers are not on the same plane, so you only need to worry about the rules for that discipline. But during training they share jump run...so you have to pick a speed that works for everyone. If an RW team wants to train for exits at the higher end of the competition range, that speed is too fast for freefly competition. 85 knots is within range for both disciplines, so he made a good call. I'll have to ask the Furies how it compares with with jump run at Nationals. A few years ago I was told that Nationals used the upper level of the jump run speed for 4-way. Maybe someone from Perris can tell us what used this year. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,027 #9 September 26, 2005 Quote Since I am a freeflyer, I have no clue. Oh Wes, did you really mean that?... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #10 September 26, 2005 QuoteQuote Since I am a freeflyer, I have no clue. Oh Wes, did you really mean that? arrrggghhhh - I can't believe the rest of us missed that. Nicely spotted, John ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
