HeatherB 0 #226 August 10, 2006 According to Kurt's story, the French had two re-jumps. Got a 19 on the first re-jump, and a 21 on the second re-jump. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Remster 30 #227 August 10, 2006 looks like only 1 more jump for 8 way too... damm, too bad, AS was on a 1 point per jump comeback!Remster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #228 August 10, 2006 QuoteAccording to Kurt's story, the French had two re-jumps. Got a 19 on the first re-jump, and a 21 on the second re-jump. Interesting, so there is no 2 point deduction? (gotta hand it to the French though, a 19 is a great score, and to keep improving on the same jump under competition is a sign of good nerves) ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GQ_jumper 4 #229 August 10, 2006 looks like only 1 more jump for 8 way too... damm, too bad, AS was on a 1 point per jump comeback! Quote They very well would have made that up too. Overall I'm not happy with the fact that the WM was held in a place known for weather like this, and with notnearly the logistical support needed for an event of this size.History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid. --Dwight D. Eisenhower Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites bliston 0 #230 August 10, 2006 I think it's BS that the French got to do that round 3 times. Especially since that sqeaked them in front of Italy for the Bronze. Of course they're gonna rip it on their third try... benMass Defiance 4-wayFS website sticks! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Stumpy 284 #231 August 10, 2006 Congratulations Airkix, Fire and the French 8-way! Worthy winners all!!!!Never try to eat more than you can lift Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites skreamer 1 #232 August 10, 2006 Kick ass Airkix!!! I am really stoked about this, it is bloody brilliant! They worked so hard for so long. Their cameraflyer Andy (and also Rob Simpson who helped out for a camp), both totally sound fellas. I was pleased when they qualified for funding, this is just awesome. Can't wait to toast their success with AlienAngel. Fuckin' brilliant! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Remster 30 #233 August 10, 2006 QuoteCan't wait to toast their success with AlienAngel. Dount count on it... That fucker has been promissing us to come over our place for drinks for almost a year now, and fuck all! Congrats Girls, and the other winners too of course!Remster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites piisfish 140 #234 August 10, 2006 QuoteI think it's BS that the French got to do that round 3 times. Especially since that sqeaked them in front of Italy for the Bronze. Of course they're gonna rip it on their third try... didn't Airkix get 2 rejumps on a same round too ?scissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rehmwa 2 #235 August 10, 2006 QuoteI think it's BS that the French got to do that round 3 times. Especially since that sqeaked them in front of Italy for the Bronze. Of course they're gonna rip it on their third try... Understandable, but they played by the rules, then it's not BS by definition. They didn't choose the weather in Gera. Neither did all the other teams which got rejumps. Rejumps can be draining. And certainly time consuming. I wonder if all the rejumps by the field didn't keep us from completing a few more rounds. I was rooting for Italy for 2nd just because Pete's a cool jumper..... But the French team is a great team, too. Watch the 28 Fire posted, that's a fun time. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites matereti 0 #236 August 10, 2006 I think that rejump rule is a lot of bull .... they should repeat the whole round for everybody or nobody. Judges stole silver from Italian team. It was like they were giving two extra practice jumps to French. Of course they are going to score better on each jump . those rules really suck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Ron 10 #237 August 10, 2006 QuoteI think that rejump rule is a lot of bull .... they should repeat the whole round for everybody or nobody. Judges stole silver from Italian team. It was like they were giving two extra practice jumps to French. Of course they are going to score better on each jump . those rules really suck I don't think they did anything wrong. But the rules do suck. I think that the max score allowed should have been the max score from the first jump. It was clear they stopped before the 4th 10. So the max score should not be allowed to go higher than that. Did they get the penalty points for the rejump? Fromt he rules they round would have to be deducted two points....If so, they did a 23? Wow."No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Remster 30 #238 August 10, 2006 QuoteSo the max score should not be allowed to go higher than that. Then whats the point of a rejump?Remster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rehmwa 2 #239 August 10, 2006 QuoteI think that the max score allowed should have been the max score from the first jump. IF it's clearly visible (In this case the 20th point didn't finish in time - so 19). We still haven't gotten the penalty question you posed answered though. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jmpwme 0 #240 August 10, 2006 Ron - does IPC have the "conditional" vs. "unconditional" rejump rule? I know USPA used to have this. Haven't looked to see if they still do. On a conditional re-jump, you would only be able to score the max of the prior. On an unconditional, you could outscore the prior jump. Now that I think about, didn't USPA change this re: clouds to say if you go - it counts, period. If you ride down, get footage of why you didn't go and hope we agree with you??? Not that this matters re IPC if the rules are different. Also - great meet by Select. Bummer to see that the tie was settled on the ground. I think they tie-breakers should be (a) jump it off until somebody wins or darkness or weather sets in, (b) single highest round, (c) ROCK, PAPER, SCISSORS, best 4 out of 7 (ie: team members alternate turns throwing down). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Ron 10 #241 August 10, 2006 QuoteQuote -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- So the max score should not be allowed to go higher than that. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Then whats the point of a rejump? To earn the points lost to video. Example, France did a 19 on the first round 4 jump. They lost 2 points due to being in the cloud, so the score they posted was a 17....But the did 19 but two were lost in the clouds. So they get an opportunity to re jump that round, but the max score would be 19. Thats totaly fair. Letting them keep doing the same jump over and over will let them go faster....So cap the rejump at the max turned on the first jump. Totally fair, vs what happens now."No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Remster 30 #242 August 11, 2006 QuoteThey lost 2 points due to being in the cloud, so the score they posted was a 17....But the did 19 but two were lost in the clouds Thats in a case when you can mosly see the 4way, but not enough to judge the points, right? But where do you draw the line if there is no image due to a thick cloud area during a fast random sequence? Who knows what they did in that time?Remster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Ron 10 #243 August 11, 2006 QuoteThats in a case when you can mosly see the 4way, but not enough to judge the points, right? But where do you draw the line if there is no image due to a thick cloud area during a fast random sequence? Who knows what they did in that time? Well it only works if you can count the number of pages turned before they run out of time. If you can count the pages, in this case almost 4, then you know how many points they could have turned max. Why should they be allowed to score more on a rejump than the scored the first time? In this case it is pretty clear that they earned 19 points max. But they were allowed to rejump it two more times. They finaly ended up with a score higher than they earned on the first jump. How is that fair when the other teams only got one shot at a score? If you can't tell how many pages they turned, well it gets tricky. But I wonder if the French had the two points deducted according to the IPC? Cause a 23 would be a really good score....But that just proves if you give a team three jumps to practice the same jump, they will get much better."No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Ron 10 #244 August 11, 2006 QuoteCan't wait to toast their success with AlienAngel You like to drink alone?"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites matereti 0 #245 August 11, 2006 QuoteQuoteThats in a case when you can mosly see the 4way, but not enough to judge the points, right? But where do you draw the line if there is no image due to a thick cloud area during a fast random sequence? Who knows what they did in that time? Well it only works if you can count the number of pages turned before they run out of time. If you can count the pages, in this case almost 4, then you know how many points they could have turned max. Why should they be allowed to score more on a rejump than the scored the first time? In this case it is pretty clear that they earned 19 points max. But they were allowed to rejump it two more times. They finaly ended up with a score higher than they earned on the first jump. How is that fair when the other teams only got one shot at a score? If you can't tell how many pages they turned, well it gets tricky. But I wonder if the French had the two points deducted according to the IPC? Cause a 23 would be a really good score....But that just proves if you give a team three jumps to practice the same jump, they will get much better. I agree on this one I think judges made completely wrong decision this time Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites bbarnhouse 0 #246 August 11, 2006 QuoteI agree on this one I think judges made completely wrong decision this time I believe the re-jump decision comes from the jury and not the judges. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites GQ_jumper 4 #247 August 11, 2006 You like to drink alone? Quote That's just funny!!History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid. --Dwight D. Eisenhower Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites choll15 0 #248 August 11, 2006 What a meet! Despite the weather doing it's best to ruin things for everyone! Special congratulations to Pete Allum for working so hard with Sinapsi and getting a well-overdue world meet medal. One of the most well-respected and talented skydivers the UK has ever produced, I'm very pleased for him right now. Airkix did a great job with Dan BC at the helm too. Surely only a matter of time that the whole male/female divide becomes irrelevent in the eyes of the FAI. Natasha, Eliana and the like proving convincingly that gender is not an issue in our sport!www.southparc.co.uk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Batboy 0 #249 August 11, 2006 QuoteWomen's 4-way (disagree with the segregration...) The French Girls I hope will win (they just posted a 19 point average from their last comp) with the Russian Ladybirds coming 2nd. The Ukranian chicks are very sweet and hope they achieve whatever goal they have. Hey Liz, real sorry to see your favorite team did not win but you must be thrilled to see your own country women do so well and take the gold - with a 19 average I believe? America...F**K YEAH! 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bliston 0 #230 August 10, 2006 I think it's BS that the French got to do that round 3 times. Especially since that sqeaked them in front of Italy for the Bronze. Of course they're gonna rip it on their third try... benMass Defiance 4-wayFS website sticks! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stumpy 284 #231 August 10, 2006 Congratulations Airkix, Fire and the French 8-way! Worthy winners all!!!!Never try to eat more than you can lift Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skreamer 1 #232 August 10, 2006 Kick ass Airkix!!! I am really stoked about this, it is bloody brilliant! They worked so hard for so long. Their cameraflyer Andy (and also Rob Simpson who helped out for a camp), both totally sound fellas. I was pleased when they qualified for funding, this is just awesome. Can't wait to toast their success with AlienAngel. Fuckin' brilliant! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Remster 30 #233 August 10, 2006 QuoteCan't wait to toast their success with AlienAngel. Dount count on it... That fucker has been promissing us to come over our place for drinks for almost a year now, and fuck all! Congrats Girls, and the other winners too of course!Remster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
piisfish 140 #234 August 10, 2006 QuoteI think it's BS that the French got to do that round 3 times. Especially since that sqeaked them in front of Italy for the Bronze. Of course they're gonna rip it on their third try... didn't Airkix get 2 rejumps on a same round too ?scissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #235 August 10, 2006 QuoteI think it's BS that the French got to do that round 3 times. Especially since that sqeaked them in front of Italy for the Bronze. Of course they're gonna rip it on their third try... Understandable, but they played by the rules, then it's not BS by definition. They didn't choose the weather in Gera. Neither did all the other teams which got rejumps. Rejumps can be draining. And certainly time consuming. I wonder if all the rejumps by the field didn't keep us from completing a few more rounds. I was rooting for Italy for 2nd just because Pete's a cool jumper..... But the French team is a great team, too. Watch the 28 Fire posted, that's a fun time. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
matereti 0 #236 August 10, 2006 I think that rejump rule is a lot of bull .... they should repeat the whole round for everybody or nobody. Judges stole silver from Italian team. It was like they were giving two extra practice jumps to French. Of course they are going to score better on each jump . those rules really suck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron 10 #237 August 10, 2006 QuoteI think that rejump rule is a lot of bull .... they should repeat the whole round for everybody or nobody. Judges stole silver from Italian team. It was like they were giving two extra practice jumps to French. Of course they are going to score better on each jump . those rules really suck I don't think they did anything wrong. But the rules do suck. I think that the max score allowed should have been the max score from the first jump. It was clear they stopped before the 4th 10. So the max score should not be allowed to go higher than that. Did they get the penalty points for the rejump? Fromt he rules they round would have to be deducted two points....If so, they did a 23? Wow."No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Remster 30 #238 August 10, 2006 QuoteSo the max score should not be allowed to go higher than that. Then whats the point of a rejump?Remster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #239 August 10, 2006 QuoteI think that the max score allowed should have been the max score from the first jump. IF it's clearly visible (In this case the 20th point didn't finish in time - so 19). We still haven't gotten the penalty question you posed answered though. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jmpwme 0 #240 August 10, 2006 Ron - does IPC have the "conditional" vs. "unconditional" rejump rule? I know USPA used to have this. Haven't looked to see if they still do. On a conditional re-jump, you would only be able to score the max of the prior. On an unconditional, you could outscore the prior jump. Now that I think about, didn't USPA change this re: clouds to say if you go - it counts, period. If you ride down, get footage of why you didn't go and hope we agree with you??? Not that this matters re IPC if the rules are different. Also - great meet by Select. Bummer to see that the tie was settled on the ground. I think they tie-breakers should be (a) jump it off until somebody wins or darkness or weather sets in, (b) single highest round, (c) ROCK, PAPER, SCISSORS, best 4 out of 7 (ie: team members alternate turns throwing down). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron 10 #241 August 10, 2006 QuoteQuote -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- So the max score should not be allowed to go higher than that. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Then whats the point of a rejump? To earn the points lost to video. Example, France did a 19 on the first round 4 jump. They lost 2 points due to being in the cloud, so the score they posted was a 17....But the did 19 but two were lost in the clouds. So they get an opportunity to re jump that round, but the max score would be 19. Thats totaly fair. Letting them keep doing the same jump over and over will let them go faster....So cap the rejump at the max turned on the first jump. Totally fair, vs what happens now."No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Remster 30 #242 August 11, 2006 QuoteThey lost 2 points due to being in the cloud, so the score they posted was a 17....But the did 19 but two were lost in the clouds Thats in a case when you can mosly see the 4way, but not enough to judge the points, right? But where do you draw the line if there is no image due to a thick cloud area during a fast random sequence? Who knows what they did in that time?Remster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron 10 #243 August 11, 2006 QuoteThats in a case when you can mosly see the 4way, but not enough to judge the points, right? But where do you draw the line if there is no image due to a thick cloud area during a fast random sequence? Who knows what they did in that time? Well it only works if you can count the number of pages turned before they run out of time. If you can count the pages, in this case almost 4, then you know how many points they could have turned max. Why should they be allowed to score more on a rejump than the scored the first time? In this case it is pretty clear that they earned 19 points max. But they were allowed to rejump it two more times. They finaly ended up with a score higher than they earned on the first jump. How is that fair when the other teams only got one shot at a score? If you can't tell how many pages they turned, well it gets tricky. But I wonder if the French had the two points deducted according to the IPC? Cause a 23 would be a really good score....But that just proves if you give a team three jumps to practice the same jump, they will get much better."No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron 10 #244 August 11, 2006 QuoteCan't wait to toast their success with AlienAngel You like to drink alone?"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
matereti 0 #245 August 11, 2006 QuoteQuoteThats in a case when you can mosly see the 4way, but not enough to judge the points, right? But where do you draw the line if there is no image due to a thick cloud area during a fast random sequence? Who knows what they did in that time? Well it only works if you can count the number of pages turned before they run out of time. If you can count the pages, in this case almost 4, then you know how many points they could have turned max. Why should they be allowed to score more on a rejump than the scored the first time? In this case it is pretty clear that they earned 19 points max. But they were allowed to rejump it two more times. They finaly ended up with a score higher than they earned on the first jump. How is that fair when the other teams only got one shot at a score? If you can't tell how many pages they turned, well it gets tricky. But I wonder if the French had the two points deducted according to the IPC? Cause a 23 would be a really good score....But that just proves if you give a team three jumps to practice the same jump, they will get much better. I agree on this one I think judges made completely wrong decision this time Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bbarnhouse 0 #246 August 11, 2006 QuoteI agree on this one I think judges made completely wrong decision this time I believe the re-jump decision comes from the jury and not the judges. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GQ_jumper 4 #247 August 11, 2006 You like to drink alone? Quote That's just funny!!History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid. --Dwight D. Eisenhower Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites choll15 0 #248 August 11, 2006 What a meet! Despite the weather doing it's best to ruin things for everyone! Special congratulations to Pete Allum for working so hard with Sinapsi and getting a well-overdue world meet medal. One of the most well-respected and talented skydivers the UK has ever produced, I'm very pleased for him right now. Airkix did a great job with Dan BC at the helm too. Surely only a matter of time that the whole male/female divide becomes irrelevent in the eyes of the FAI. Natasha, Eliana and the like proving convincingly that gender is not an issue in our sport!www.southparc.co.uk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Batboy 0 #249 August 11, 2006 QuoteWomen's 4-way (disagree with the segregration...) The French Girls I hope will win (they just posted a 19 point average from their last comp) with the Russian Ladybirds coming 2nd. The Ukranian chicks are very sweet and hope they achieve whatever goal they have. Hey Liz, real sorry to see your favorite team did not win but you must be thrilled to see your own country women do so well and take the gold - with a 19 average I believe? America...F**K YEAH! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites GQ_jumper 4 #250 August 13, 2006 Awesome scores all around in RW, its a shame that the weather cancelled so much of the meet thoughHistory does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid. --Dwight D. Eisenhower Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 Next Page 10 of 11 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
choll15 0 #248 August 11, 2006 What a meet! Despite the weather doing it's best to ruin things for everyone! Special congratulations to Pete Allum for working so hard with Sinapsi and getting a well-overdue world meet medal. One of the most well-respected and talented skydivers the UK has ever produced, I'm very pleased for him right now. Airkix did a great job with Dan BC at the helm too. Surely only a matter of time that the whole male/female divide becomes irrelevent in the eyes of the FAI. Natasha, Eliana and the like proving convincingly that gender is not an issue in our sport!www.southparc.co.uk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Batboy 0 #249 August 11, 2006 QuoteWomen's 4-way (disagree with the segregration...) The French Girls I hope will win (they just posted a 19 point average from their last comp) with the Russian Ladybirds coming 2nd. The Ukranian chicks are very sweet and hope they achieve whatever goal they have. Hey Liz, real sorry to see your favorite team did not win but you must be thrilled to see your own country women do so well and take the gold - with a 19 average I believe? America...F**K YEAH! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GQ_jumper 4 #250 August 13, 2006 Awesome scores all around in RW, its a shame that the weather cancelled so much of the meet thoughHistory does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid. --Dwight D. Eisenhower Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
