kirkverner 0 #1 March 6, 2007 Team Paraclete is training March 19-22 at Raeford Parachute Center so the PAC 750 will be flying a minimum of 12 loads a day. We will have open dirt dives for anyone wanting to observe and learn the techniques we'll be working on that week. We will also be doing a sunset load with anyone thats on the DZ after we're done training. Hope to see you there. ParacleteXP Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #2 March 6, 2007 I wonder what the Raeford area job market is like . Lots of stuff happening - someone obsessive about 4-way could learn a ton. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GQ_jumper 4 #3 March 6, 2007 Hey Kirk, how are you liking the PAC for 4 way exits?History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid. --Dwight D. Eisenhower Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kirkverner 0 #4 March 6, 2007 It's fine. A little smaller than the Otter but basically the same. Climbs fast and is comfortable. ParacleteXP Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob.dino 1 #5 March 6, 2007 QuoteHey Kirk, how are you liking the PAC for 4 way exits? Note: we're nowhere near Kirk's level. Think of a Caravan door with a little less height. If you have a tall IC, they may have to get closer to the door to exit cleanly. Otherwise it's just fine and dandy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #6 March 6, 2007 QuoteNote: we're nowhere near Kirk's level. practice, practice, practice ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GQ_jumper 4 #7 March 6, 2007 It's fine. A little smaller than the Otter but basically the same.Quote Can you take anything in the divepool out the door or does it limit you on a few exits?History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid. --Dwight D. Eisenhower Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites bob.dino 1 #8 March 7, 2007 QuoteQuoteNote: we're nowhere near Kirk's level. practice, practice, practice ...and dedicating much of a life to the perfection of it. All depends on how many other sacrifices you're willing to make. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kirkverner 0 #9 March 7, 2007 We take everything off the same as an Otter ParacleteXP Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites GQ_jumper 4 #10 March 7, 2007 That's what I wanted to hear Good luck with the training camp Kirk.History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid. --Dwight D. Eisenhower Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Fast 0 #11 March 7, 2007 QuoteThat's what I wanted to hear Good luck with the training camp Kirk. Just to add, that my team jumps out of a pac and we have been following along with AZAS style exits and have been able to take everything we wanted to out of the pac even at our much lower skill level. When you do get into an otter eventually, it really seems like you have a lot of room to work and everything seems to transfer well. Kirk do you guys use the extra step on the pac? (i would think yes)~D Where troubles melt like lemon drops Away above the chimney tops That's where you'll find me. Swooping is taking one last poke at the bear before escaping it's cave - davelepka Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kirkverner 0 #12 March 7, 2007 We sure do ParacleteXP Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites GQ_jumper 4 #13 March 7, 2007 Hey fast, what slot do you fly buddy?History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid. --Dwight D. Eisenhower Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kirkverner 0 #14 March 7, 2007 OC ParacleteXP Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites GQ_jumper 4 #15 March 8, 2007 OCQuote I know what slot you fly Kirk Or does Fast also fly OC??History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid. --Dwight D. Eisenhower Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites arlo 0 #16 March 8, 2007 well i'll be damned...KV. long time, darlin. looks like you're a posting fool! didn't know you spent this much time near a damn computer. you guys coming to play for shamrock? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kirkverner 0 #17 March 8, 2007 No I'm going to Eloy to coach Extremo. I have had a little time on my hands while they build the monster. Once its done I want you to come up for the Opening and check it out! Party on Wayne ParacleteXP Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites arlo 0 #18 March 8, 2007 tunnel sounds like fun. count me in. already sounds like a few of our friends will there as well. ;) also sounds like you've got the RW scene hopping. nice job! party on garth. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites skykittykat 0 #19 March 9, 2007 QuoteI have had a little time on my hands while they build the monster So, I will tell Mel that you have had time for household duties, ie cleaning, laundry and cooking On a serious skydiving note, does the PAC have a problem with it's centre of gravity or is that an ugly rumour that is going around? (I remember a few years back when it was first manufactured, a 4 way was the most that could be launched and everyone else had to stay behind the line). Liz Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites McDuck 0 #20 March 9, 2007 I'm sure Kirk will provide a better prospective on this, but I will say that we had a pilot whose response to our comments that we were going to try and put 10-12 people in and at the door was "Only a pu$$y couldn't fly this plane with that many people in the door." I still have my footage from the camera step of the plane pitching up and everyone peeling off the plane in ones and twos. Kevin - Sonic Beef #5 - OrFun #28 "I never take myself too seriously, 'cuz everybody know fat birds don't fly." - FLC Online communities: proof that people never mature much past high school. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kirkverner 0 #21 March 9, 2007 I haven't done any 8 way out of it yet. But...I know they have reservations about alot of people in the back. The pilot here keeps it in a nose down attitude when we do big way loads so I'm sure its pretty trick. I will call Ray Ferrel and find out exactly what the operators are experiencing. While doing 4 way we have had not a single issue. ParacleteXP Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites collinb 0 #22 March 9, 2007 I would be lying if I said it hasn't happened to us at SkyDance but with a good pilot once he's experienced how the plane behaves with a 14-15 way lineup you usually have no problems. I can't remember the last time it happened. Key, for jumpers, is turn co-pilot seat around and take the right hand (looking forward) bench out for anything over 8. We are regularly taking out a "standard" 8-way launch here, 6 outside, incl camera, and 3 inside. Inside is a little tight but launch/line up almost the same as an Otter. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ljwobker 2 #23 March 9, 2007 Does raeford have wireless access? If so, I may just move down there for the week. ;-) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites McDuck 0 #24 March 9, 2007 QuoteDoes raeford have wireless access? If so, I may just move down there for the week. ;-) Yes, but connectivity is frequently affected by Go-Go the cat's level of interest in the wireless antenna at any given moment. Kevin - Sonic Beef #5 - OrFun #28 "I never take myself too seriously, 'cuz everybody know fat birds don't fly." - FLC Online communities: proof that people never mature much past high school. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kirkverner 0 #25 March 9, 2007 We have it at Sky Cat gear store located on the DZ. You can connect to ours whenever you want. ParacleteXP Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 Next Page 1 of 2 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. 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bob.dino 1 #8 March 7, 2007 QuoteQuoteNote: we're nowhere near Kirk's level. practice, practice, practice ...and dedicating much of a life to the perfection of it. All depends on how many other sacrifices you're willing to make. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kirkverner 0 #9 March 7, 2007 We take everything off the same as an Otter ParacleteXP Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GQ_jumper 4 #10 March 7, 2007 That's what I wanted to hear Good luck with the training camp Kirk.History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid. --Dwight D. Eisenhower Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fast 0 #11 March 7, 2007 QuoteThat's what I wanted to hear Good luck with the training camp Kirk. Just to add, that my team jumps out of a pac and we have been following along with AZAS style exits and have been able to take everything we wanted to out of the pac even at our much lower skill level. When you do get into an otter eventually, it really seems like you have a lot of room to work and everything seems to transfer well. Kirk do you guys use the extra step on the pac? (i would think yes)~D Where troubles melt like lemon drops Away above the chimney tops That's where you'll find me. Swooping is taking one last poke at the bear before escaping it's cave - davelepka Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kirkverner 0 #12 March 7, 2007 We sure do ParacleteXP Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GQ_jumper 4 #13 March 7, 2007 Hey fast, what slot do you fly buddy?History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid. --Dwight D. Eisenhower Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kirkverner 0 #14 March 7, 2007 OC ParacleteXP Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GQ_jumper 4 #15 March 8, 2007 OCQuote I know what slot you fly Kirk Or does Fast also fly OC??History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid. --Dwight D. Eisenhower Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites arlo 0 #16 March 8, 2007 well i'll be damned...KV. long time, darlin. looks like you're a posting fool! didn't know you spent this much time near a damn computer. you guys coming to play for shamrock? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kirkverner 0 #17 March 8, 2007 No I'm going to Eloy to coach Extremo. I have had a little time on my hands while they build the monster. Once its done I want you to come up for the Opening and check it out! Party on Wayne ParacleteXP Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites arlo 0 #18 March 8, 2007 tunnel sounds like fun. count me in. already sounds like a few of our friends will there as well. ;) also sounds like you've got the RW scene hopping. nice job! party on garth. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites skykittykat 0 #19 March 9, 2007 QuoteI have had a little time on my hands while they build the monster So, I will tell Mel that you have had time for household duties, ie cleaning, laundry and cooking On a serious skydiving note, does the PAC have a problem with it's centre of gravity or is that an ugly rumour that is going around? (I remember a few years back when it was first manufactured, a 4 way was the most that could be launched and everyone else had to stay behind the line). Liz Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites McDuck 0 #20 March 9, 2007 I'm sure Kirk will provide a better prospective on this, but I will say that we had a pilot whose response to our comments that we were going to try and put 10-12 people in and at the door was "Only a pu$$y couldn't fly this plane with that many people in the door." I still have my footage from the camera step of the plane pitching up and everyone peeling off the plane in ones and twos. Kevin - Sonic Beef #5 - OrFun #28 "I never take myself too seriously, 'cuz everybody know fat birds don't fly." - FLC Online communities: proof that people never mature much past high school. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kirkverner 0 #21 March 9, 2007 I haven't done any 8 way out of it yet. But...I know they have reservations about alot of people in the back. The pilot here keeps it in a nose down attitude when we do big way loads so I'm sure its pretty trick. I will call Ray Ferrel and find out exactly what the operators are experiencing. While doing 4 way we have had not a single issue. ParacleteXP Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites collinb 0 #22 March 9, 2007 I would be lying if I said it hasn't happened to us at SkyDance but with a good pilot once he's experienced how the plane behaves with a 14-15 way lineup you usually have no problems. I can't remember the last time it happened. Key, for jumpers, is turn co-pilot seat around and take the right hand (looking forward) bench out for anything over 8. We are regularly taking out a "standard" 8-way launch here, 6 outside, incl camera, and 3 inside. Inside is a little tight but launch/line up almost the same as an Otter. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ljwobker 2 #23 March 9, 2007 Does raeford have wireless access? If so, I may just move down there for the week. ;-) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites McDuck 0 #24 March 9, 2007 QuoteDoes raeford have wireless access? If so, I may just move down there for the week. ;-) Yes, but connectivity is frequently affected by Go-Go the cat's level of interest in the wireless antenna at any given moment. Kevin - Sonic Beef #5 - OrFun #28 "I never take myself too seriously, 'cuz everybody know fat birds don't fly." - FLC Online communities: proof that people never mature much past high school. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kirkverner 0 #25 March 9, 2007 We have it at Sky Cat gear store located on the DZ. You can connect to ours whenever you want. ParacleteXP Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 Next Page 1 of 2 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
arlo 0 #16 March 8, 2007 well i'll be damned...KV. long time, darlin. looks like you're a posting fool! didn't know you spent this much time near a damn computer. you guys coming to play for shamrock? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kirkverner 0 #17 March 8, 2007 No I'm going to Eloy to coach Extremo. I have had a little time on my hands while they build the monster. Once its done I want you to come up for the Opening and check it out! Party on Wayne ParacleteXP Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
arlo 0 #18 March 8, 2007 tunnel sounds like fun. count me in. already sounds like a few of our friends will there as well. ;) also sounds like you've got the RW scene hopping. nice job! party on garth. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skykittykat 0 #19 March 9, 2007 QuoteI have had a little time on my hands while they build the monster So, I will tell Mel that you have had time for household duties, ie cleaning, laundry and cooking On a serious skydiving note, does the PAC have a problem with it's centre of gravity or is that an ugly rumour that is going around? (I remember a few years back when it was first manufactured, a 4 way was the most that could be launched and everyone else had to stay behind the line). Liz Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
McDuck 0 #20 March 9, 2007 I'm sure Kirk will provide a better prospective on this, but I will say that we had a pilot whose response to our comments that we were going to try and put 10-12 people in and at the door was "Only a pu$$y couldn't fly this plane with that many people in the door." I still have my footage from the camera step of the plane pitching up and everyone peeling off the plane in ones and twos. Kevin - Sonic Beef #5 - OrFun #28 "I never take myself too seriously, 'cuz everybody know fat birds don't fly." - FLC Online communities: proof that people never mature much past high school. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kirkverner 0 #21 March 9, 2007 I haven't done any 8 way out of it yet. But...I know they have reservations about alot of people in the back. The pilot here keeps it in a nose down attitude when we do big way loads so I'm sure its pretty trick. I will call Ray Ferrel and find out exactly what the operators are experiencing. While doing 4 way we have had not a single issue. ParacleteXP Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
collinb 0 #22 March 9, 2007 I would be lying if I said it hasn't happened to us at SkyDance but with a good pilot once he's experienced how the plane behaves with a 14-15 way lineup you usually have no problems. I can't remember the last time it happened. Key, for jumpers, is turn co-pilot seat around and take the right hand (looking forward) bench out for anything over 8. We are regularly taking out a "standard" 8-way launch here, 6 outside, incl camera, and 3 inside. Inside is a little tight but launch/line up almost the same as an Otter. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ljwobker 2 #23 March 9, 2007 Does raeford have wireless access? If so, I may just move down there for the week. ;-) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
McDuck 0 #24 March 9, 2007 QuoteDoes raeford have wireless access? If so, I may just move down there for the week. ;-) Yes, but connectivity is frequently affected by Go-Go the cat's level of interest in the wireless antenna at any given moment. Kevin - Sonic Beef #5 - OrFun #28 "I never take myself too seriously, 'cuz everybody know fat birds don't fly." - FLC Online communities: proof that people never mature much past high school. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kirkverner 0 #25 March 9, 2007 We have it at Sky Cat gear store located on the DZ. You can connect to ours whenever you want. ParacleteXP Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
