mikkey 0 #1 February 14, 2003 Looks like I am ordering a new Talon FS next week. I will have to make a choice between FAST or Multiflex harness rings. Anyone have some advise? I am not sure what is best. Mostly going to do RW with the rig. Thanks. --------------------------------------------------------- When people look like ants - pull. When ants look like people - pray. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skygod7777 0 #2 February 14, 2003 well, am i right that it is the same price for either one?? if so, get the one with hip and chest (i'm not sure which one that is) because if you go to sell it one day, the resale value will go up, and in my opinion they are more comfortible. and i think they kinda look cool on a rig, but i'm not sure why, i just do. later Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hookitt 1 #3 February 14, 2003 Get the Multi Flex. Edit: It's This Harness.My grammar sometimes resembles that of magnetic refrigerator poetry... Ghetto Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ZigZagMarquis 9 #4 February 14, 2003 Yeah, but what if you don't want a harness/container with both the top (chest) and bottom (hip) rigs?? Can you order a Talon FS with just the hip rings?... the F.A.S.T. config, right? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hookitt 1 #5 February 14, 2003 AH!!! F.A.S.T. (Fully Articulated Suspension Technology) Is uppers and lowers. Just lowers is Articulated. Just order lower rings and get the MultiFlex type leg pads. You'll be golden.My grammar sometimes resembles that of magnetic refrigerator poetry... Ghetto Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ZigZagMarquis 9 #6 February 14, 2003 Doh! See, there you go. Thats why I asked. Anyway, my personal prefernence in "I like the hip rings" but "I don't like the chest rings", but that's just me. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masher 1 #7 February 14, 2003 Multiflex: The Multi-flex Harness provides unequaled levels of comfort & flexibility plus we are now able to offer you the option of Full Stainless Steel Hardware with the introduction of Stainless Steel Hip & Chest Rings along with the already available Stainless Steel 3-rings & or Leg & Chest Adjusters. http://www.parachutesaustralia.com/s2/imgs/prods/talon3/t3hrns.jpg F.A.S.T. : Fully Articulated Suspension Technology ®. A modern harness configuration with high strength forged steel rings located at the hip junction for complete freedom of movement. http://www.parachutesaustralia.com/s2/imgs/prods/talon3/fast_hrns.jpg From: http://www.parachutesaustralia.com/-- Arching is overrated - Marlies Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rmsmith 1 #8 February 14, 2003 Fashion aside, unless you have a really small rig like these swoop folks that require a "stepped" harness, you don't need all that extra metal. A properly fitted harness will allow all the movement you'll ever need. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alain 0 #9 February 14, 2003 just for those of you how don't know what's the FS: http://www.parachutesaustralia.com/s2/prod_talonfs.php the harness seems very similar the vodoo. good stuff, I'll probabely get one up here at some point (and the price is GOOD) Mikey, I have a PA Talon2 multiflex, I love it (no down side) Alain Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hookitt 1 #10 February 14, 2003 Hey that's pretty cool. Thanks.. I'm one of those guys who didn't know about it.My grammar sometimes resembles that of magnetic refrigerator poetry... Ghetto Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mikkey 0 #11 February 14, 2003 Thanks all for the comments. Better understand the difference now. Will consult with a couple guys at the DZ who have Talon's. They look really nice and manufactured here in Australia under license - which makes them also very attractive price wise (fully optioned around USD 1500-1600). Looking forward to tomorrow - 95 F, blue skies at the DZ and lifts to 14K with a comfy Caravan. What is the weather like in the Northern Hemisphere at the moment? --------------------------------------------------------- When people look like ants - pull. When ants look like people - pray. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riggerrob 643 #12 February 14, 2003 After a week of clear, cool weather in Vancouver, it looks like we are in for a bit of rain. This winter cough! cough! has turned out way milder than previous years. Returning to your original question, I have been jumping a 1997 Talon 2 with hip rings (FAST) since it was built. I like the hip rings because they help large me to fold into small Cessnas. Like Bill Booth, I always thought that chest rings were more fancy than we really need. The primary advantage of chest rings seems to be that you can really reef your chest strap tight for head down skydiving. Bill sees the primary advantage of chest rings as more shiny stainless steel to impress your skydiving buddies. Now that several manufacturers have perfected contoured shoulder yokes, I believe that chest rings will decline in practicality. I may be just a touch biased towards ringed harnesses since I worked at Rigging Innovations from 1994 to 1997, when we worked the bugs out sizing Flexon and Talon 2 ringed harnesses. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohanW 0 #13 February 14, 2003 In this little part of the Northern Hemisphere, it'll be 35 F, blue skies and lifts to 12k with a comfy Grand Caravan. Now where's my five layers of warm clothes?Johan. I am. I think. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alain 0 #14 February 14, 2003 Quote The primary advantage of chest rings seems to be that you can really reef your chest strap tight for head down skydiving. I found that the tight set up on my Talon is specialy good in back tracking: the rig won't move and I just don't think about it untill pull time . I set it that way on all jumps now and I loose up the chest strap all the way as part of my post-opening routine... Alain Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grumpy 9 #15 February 16, 2003 I know of two people who got custom built Talon harnesses (in Australia) and haven't been happy with them. One guy (small build) found it moved around too much and came off his shoulders in head-down. Don't know the details of the 2nd guy. They eventually had the harnesses rebuilt and the rings removed. PM me if you want his number. I've got an older Talon with just the hip rings and I love it. I don't see the need for the chest rings. Also, check out the thread on the total control site about this. http://www.totalcontrol.com.au/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=Advice;action=display;num=1044861686 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites