Illustration / how-to for the FS4 dive pool

[jlevin 0]

Can anyone here help me find illustrations of how the FS-4 dive pool?

I have found Team Fastrax's illustrations of the blocks at http://teamfastrax.com/4way.html, but I can't seem to find anything similar for the randoms. The stamped pictures from the official dive pool don't show how you'd typically do a formation and who is in what position...

Thanks in advance.

[labrys 0]

The iPhone app does this:

http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/4way-dives/id321089511?mt=8

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[OwenB 0]

Heya, here is the fastrax randoms hope that helps

http://db.tt/ZPhYULr9

[jlevin 0]

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Heya, here is the fastrax randoms hope that helps

http://db.tt/ZPhYULr9

Thanks a lot!

That's exactly what I was looking for.

[jlevin 0]

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The iPhone app does this:

http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/4way-dives/id321089511?mt=8

Thanks for the tip. The app does show who is in what position, but it still draws all jumbers boxed out and not in a realistic position. For example when doing "L" the tail usually stays to the IC's left as in Fastrax's pdf and not straight behind him as shown in the app and the official documents.

The app is still worth $1, though.

[jtiflyer 0]

actually there are a couple of different "L"s IIRC

[HHypoxic 0]

Go to the official source: http://www.fai.org/ipc-documents

Then follow this trail: Sporting Code and Competition>Formation Skydiving>Formation Skydiving Rules 2012

This will let you open a 22 page PDF where the last 7 pages show all the blocks and randoms for both 4way and 8way.

[rehmwa 2]

FAI source is official, but the OP wanted to see the cheats and get a continuity plan. FAI pdf just doesn't give a standard plan.

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[Joellercoaster 6]

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actually there are a couple of different "L"s IIRC

Potentially many, but I can think of 3 [edit: particularly] useful ones

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[rehmwa 2]

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actually there are a couple of different "L"s IIRC

Potentially many, but I can think of 3 [edit: particularly] useful ones

L's = we've used 3 of the (at least 16) variations (not counting those that come from slot switchers)


- OC outfacing (Point cats the OC) is our most common
- OC cats on the Tail (the other end of it) seems to be more useful even and I'm coming to prefer that one (IMO)
- the zigzag version (OC presents the sidebody to IC) is uncomfortable for very new teams and I don't recommend it unless all 4 teammates are really solid and comfy with alternate builds


We're flexible on the build for L, B (bunches), N, 22 (doesn't really count since our alternate option is simply the B slots - even on a repeater), 9 (lots of options on 9)
sometimes C,
we used to do the wrapped up Q on occasion, but it just slowed the random work up so we stopped that


Seems that 15 should allow options but it never really came up in any draw.....


I try not to get too clever (that opinion is result of experience ) - rarely do you get something for nothing - a shorter move of one guy will result in a bigger move for someone later in the page or even in that transition. But when you do, it's usually blatantly obvious (example 6-N-M) - so then the trade off is will the non-standard build cause teammates to hesitate vs can EVERYBODY handle it.

What's the point of saving a second on paper, when, during the dive, just one guy freezes up from seeing something unfamiliar and has to recover?



here's a fun one for Intermediate: 9-7 (it can be engineered such that each random transition requires no one to make more than a 90, usually the other two people don't even move). IMO - it's also a recipe for disaster unless all 4 people have steel traps for brains....

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[StreetScooby 5]

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http://db.tt/ZPhYULr9

Link doesn't work for me...
Is there another one around?

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[Joellercoaster 6]

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we used to do the wrapped up Q on occasion, but it just slowed the random work up so we stopped that

It could just be me, but curly Q seems to have gone out of fashion. Are people just finding it too much hassle? Or am I just not watching enough 4-way the last couple of years?

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"I'll tell you how all skydivers are judged, . They are judged by the laws of physics." - kkeenan

"You jump out, pull the string and either live or die. What's there to be good at?

[Skydivesg 7]

I really like the animated colored blocks on the Fast Trax site.

Is there a way to download those so they will play on a laptop or Ipad?

I would like to have them for when I organize at DZs with limited or no internet.

Be the canopy pilot you want that other guy to be.

[StreetScooby 5]

Where is the FastTrax site?

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[rehmwa 2]

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Where is the FastTrax site?

http://teamfastrax.org/4way.html

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Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants

[Skydivesg 7]

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Where is the FastTrax site?

http://www.teamfastrax.com

Be the canopy pilot you want that other guy to be.

[StreetScooby 5]

Thank you rehmwa and Skydivesg!

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[OwenB 0]

Dropbox link for fastrax randoms, blocks and FAI FS 2012 rules.

Please note block 1 and 13 are wrong.
1 should be - snowflake-inter-snowflake
13 should be - offset-inter-spinner

Hopefully this work!

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/vesraee057pzlqk/8PEWuAhUd8

[StreetScooby 5]

That worked! Thanks!

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