nigel99 474 #1 February 19, 2012 I'm curious at to why some jumpers don't seem bothered by Gopro's snag points. I've watched a couple of videos on youtube and you see their camera's on "huge" extensions. http://www.sikharchives.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/jeb_corliss_bat_suit.jpg This pic of Jeb is a typical example, notice that he hasn't even bothered to replace the standard large gopro screw with a low profile screw. Are these guys simply ignoring the dangers, am I missing something? I guess you could easily have it rigged so that it will simply snap off with a few pounds of force?Experienced jumper - someone who has made mistakes more often than I have and lived. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #2 February 19, 2012 Well he does have a cut-away helmet ... I s'pose (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nigel99 474 #3 February 19, 2012 Quote Well he does have a cut-away helmet ... I s'pose It is very odd, I've seen it on a couple of base videos today. That and the idea of both front and rear facing go-pro's. I don't have a clue about base, but I am surprised by it. I would have expected guys to be more concerned about snag points - not less. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #4 February 19, 2012 Well when your chances are drawn by seconds and parts of seconds .. it's the footage that counts (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #5 February 19, 2012 I willing to bet they ARE concerned and for that reason have considered the following: 1) They have the experience to evaluate the risk vs. their skills. 2) They have selected equipment appropriate to mitigate the risk (i.e canopy sizes, deployment systems, and camera mounts that will break when necessary.) (Side note: drives me nuts when I see people bolt a GoPro to a helmet.) 3) Have practiced the activity and specific methods WITHOUT the cameras in order to mitigate the risks.---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nigel99 474 #6 February 19, 2012 QuoteI willing to bet they ARE concerned and for that reason have considered the following: 1) The have the experience to evaluate the risk vs. their skills. 2) The have selected equipment appropriate to mitigate the risk (i.e canopy sizes, deployment systems, and camera mounts that will break when necessary.) (Side note: drives me nuts when I see people bolt a GoPro to a helmet.) 3) Have practiced the activity and specific methods WITHOUT the cameras in order to mitigate the risks. I'm sure you are right. It just appeared contrary to what I've grown up with. 90% of me thinks they have the knowledge and experience to do the job right, but when I see a big old stock thumbscrew sticking out of the setup, it makes me go umm? Something that costs a few cents to replace with a normal low profile machine screw. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #7 February 19, 2012 QuoteI willing to bet they ARE concerned and for that reason have considered the following: I don't really know who "they" are. From the basejumpers that I know, I can say: "they" consist of a percentage of people that do what you say. A small percentage, but definitely some "they" consist of people that just don't think about it. Not because they are purposely careless, but they just don't think about those kinds of things. pretty big percentage. Seems like the first group is actively trying to recruit them over to a better view of the sport. "they" consist of dumbasses that really don't care and just do it because their egos can't handle less and they are just plain idiots about the activity. another fairly large group - which seems to be growing I'd prefer that first group to keep growing, personally. I like and respect those guys. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #8 February 19, 2012 The nice thing about base for those of us that hold to machiavellian views is it's a sport that has a built in self correcting mode for stupidity and ignorance. ---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,489 #9 February 19, 2012 Quote Quote Well he does have a cut-away helmet ... I s'pose It is very odd, I've seen it on a couple of base videos today. That and the idea of both front and rear facing go-pro's. I don't have a clue about base, but I am surprised by it. I would have expected guys to be more concerned about snag points - not less. In wingsuit base jumping a camera mounted on your helmet is about as far away from the deploying canopy as you can get (apart from a chest mount). See if you can find any rear facing footage of a full flight base deployment. There were some great shots in one of Robi's movies, Fly The Line 2 I think, you can see the canopy deploying so far behind its brushing the trailing edge of the leg wing. Opens up a whole new can of worms in terms of ankle mounts (and I have seen people mounting GoPros on their right foot in WS base) but the helmet mounted cameras aren't such a big deal. (Of course sub-terminal is a whole different animal again)Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nigel99 474 #10 February 19, 2012 Quote Quote Quote Well he does have a cut-away helmet ... I s'pose It is very odd, I've seen it on a couple of base videos today. That and the idea of both front and rear facing go-pro's. I don't have a clue about base, but I am surprised by it. I would have expected guys to be more concerned about snag points - not less. In wingsuit base jumping a camera mounted on your helmet is about as far away from the deploying canopy as you can get (apart from a chest mount). See if you can find any rear facing footage of a full flight base deployment. There were some great shots in one of Robi's movies, Fly The Line 2 I think, you can see the canopy deploying so far behind its brushing the trailing edge of the leg wing. Opens up a whole new can of worms in terms of ankle mounts (and I have seen people mounting GoPros on their right foot in WS base) but the helmet mounted cameras aren't such a big deal. (Of course sub-terminal is a whole different animal again) Jakee that makes a lot of sense. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #11 February 20, 2012 jakee, that whole theory of yours only works in a stable belly to earth deployment scenario. When the shit hits the fan, you might not be..... ---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
piisfish 140 #12 February 20, 2012 Quote jakee, that whole theory of yours only works in a stable belly to earth deployment scenario. When the shit hits the fan, you might not be..... yeah yeah, like if wingsuiters would do double backflips or any other kinds of flippy-do's before pitching their PC scissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FrancoR 0 #13 February 20, 2012 Quote Are these guys simply ignoring the dangers, am I missing something? A lot of skydivers ignore the danger that you can simply die while skydiving, some chose to ingnore that stuff can get wraped up on stuff attached to helmets. Both have been proven to be wrong. People still do both for the benefit of doing it... The more ignorant you are the more you benefit from everything!!! :-)If it does not cost anything you are the product. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,489 #14 February 20, 2012 Quote jakee, that whole theory of yours only works in a stable belly to earth deployment scenario. When the shit hits the fan, you might not be..... In that case you've probably slipped on exit and are probably fucked anyway. So you might as well get some cool footage of itDo you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stayhigh 2 #15 February 21, 2012 How else are you gonna get your face shot when you are swooping down the mountain???Bernie Sanders for President 2016 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nigel99 474 #16 February 21, 2012 Quote Quote jakee, that whole theory of yours only works in a stable belly to earth deployment scenario. When the shit hits the fan, you might not be..... yeah yeah, like if wingsuiters would do double backflips or any other kinds of flippy-do's before pitching their PC http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DUVkNAv3Yssk&h=SAQEbUE9OAQFUxaVji7073e34VPkW_QdYirxRQMGWmjEo6g You mean like this (go to the 33 second mark) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Squeak 17 #17 February 21, 2012 Quote Quote Quote You mean like this (go to the 33 second mark) you might meet those guys at Pinjara, one of them (at least) jumps thereYou are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky) My Life ROCKS! How's yours doing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflyJoe 0 #18 February 21, 2012 http://www.basejumper.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?do=post_attachment;postatt_id=87018; Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
