r2hubert 0 #1 December 23, 2002 Question: I don't have any fire wire input on my computer. Is there any way I can transfer my videos from my Sony to my computer without using the memory stick? Thanks -- Renaud SMA #9 "Mind is like parachute. It only functions when it's open." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #2 December 23, 2002 Do you care about full resolution?quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
r2hubert 0 #3 December 23, 2002 It will be great but if it's not possible, I'll take the solution anyway But I care about the fps -- Renaud SMA #9 "Mind is like parachute. It only functions when it's open." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wlie 0 #4 December 23, 2002 I was at Costco yesterday and saw a Pinnacle Studio DV. It's $99, comes with a firewire card and software. Personally I'm coming from Planet Macintosh so I have no experience with the product. But for $99? Can't hurt right? My other ride is the relative wind. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
r2hubert 0 #5 December 23, 2002 I'll try to find a solution without spending any money Thanks anyway. I was looking at the description of the product and I didn't knew that it was possible o burn a CD that can be read by a DVD player. How is the quality? What length can you expect with a good image quality? Thanks again -- Renaud SMA #9 "Mind is like parachute. It only functions when it's open." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #6 December 23, 2002 Quote I was looking at the description of the product and I didn't knew that it was possible o burn a CD that can be read by a DVD player. How is the quality? What length can you expect with a good image quality? They're called VCDs and not ALL DVD players will play them. It's VERY important to know ahead of time before spending this sort of cash if it's going to actually work for you or not. Unfortunately, there's really only one way to find out. quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mountainman 0 #7 December 23, 2002 Shell out the $40 or so for this card and don't loose resolution for it. You'll wish you had: http://pcworld.pricegrabber.com/search_prodsummary.php/masterid=372087/search=adaptec%2520firewire/ut=18d2ec8d0278efa4http://www.brandonandlaura.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mountainman 0 #8 December 23, 2002 Oh yeah. You can also probably go to your local computer equipment shop and buy a generic brand firewire capture card for like $15 or so. Don't expect anything grand or great tech support, but it'll probably work nonetheless.http://www.brandonandlaura.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iam 0 #9 December 23, 2002 I have a sony pc101, and there is no way I could transfer video to computer on my usb. It was ok for stills. Invest in the firewire card, it works well and the editing can be entertaining if not time consuming if you want perfection."Don't ever knock on deaths door, just ring the bell and run away - it really pisses him off" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RichM 0 #10 December 25, 2002 QuoteI have a sony pc101, and there is no way I could transfer video to computer on my usb. 5 minutes of full resolution video takes about 1 Gb of hard drive space. USB 1.x is only rated to 12 Mb/s and can't provide the bandwidth, Firewire (IEEE1394) is rated to 400 Mb/s and is perfect for video capture. But be sure you have enough hard drive space :)Rich M Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
r2hubert 0 #11 December 26, 2002 Yes you are right! I succeed to transfer video from my PC101 to my computer via USB and the quality is very poor But at least it's possible -- Renaud SMA #9 "Mind is like parachute. It only functions when it's open." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndyMan 7 #12 December 27, 2002 QuoteYes you are right! I succeed to transfer video from my PC101 to my computer via USB and the quality is very poor . But at least it's possible ObgeekComment: USB 2.0 is coming out very shortly, and is said to transfer at upwards of 1 gig/sec - faster then firewire. There are other reasons that firewire is better then USB - like the fact that USB needs a "computer", (ie, usb mouse plugs into computer, usb printer plugs into computer) while firewire does not need an actual "computer". This means you can firewire between two camcorders, but will never be able to USB between two without having a PC handy. Am__ You put the fun in "funnel" - craichead. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #13 December 27, 2002 USB 2.0 is spec'd at 480 mbs and Firewire is at 400 mbs. http://www.usb.org/developers/usb20/faq20/ The USB 2.0 specification has a design data rate of 480 mega bits per second http://www.adaptec.com/worldwide/product/prodtechindex.html?cat=/Technology/FireWire-1394 FireWire is as hot as its name suggests, supporting data speeds up to 400 megabits per second (Mbps).Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #14 December 27, 2002 Just around the corner huh? Just like the Boeing Sonic Cruiser? In other words, if it isn't here yet, don't hold your breath. I guess when USB 2.x is on computers AND cameras then I'll care, but until then FireWire is it.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RichM 0 #15 December 27, 2002 Quote I guess when USB 2.x is on computers AND cameras then I'll care, but until then FireWire is it. Ditto, except the extra bandwidth won't make any real difference to video in it's current format as firewire already has the bandwidth for full screen capture in realtime, so USB 2.0 offers nothing extra. No reasons to swap there then.Rich M Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spy38W 0 #16 December 27, 2002 QuoteUSB 2.0 is spec'd at 480 mbs and Firewire is at 400 mbs. Yah, but IIRC, the data will only come out of the camera at 100 mbs -- Hook high, flare on time Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
r2hubert 0 #17 December 27, 2002 BTW, I recently bought a firewire cable to link two camcorders, and it doesn't work I use to borrow the cable to friend, so I wanted mine Is there something special with this cable, it's not a regular one? Here is the one I bought: FireWire -- Renaud SMA #9 "Mind is like parachute. It only functions when it's open." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #18 December 27, 2002 There are two types of connectors for FireWire connections; 4 pin and 6 pin. 4 pin is usually used for cameras. 6 pin is usually used for computers and hard drives. Camera-to-camera connections are normally made with cables having 4 pin connectors on both ends. Camera-to-computer connections are normally made with a 4 pin connector on one end and a 6 pin connector on the other. Computer-to-computer (or hard drive) connections are normally made with 6 pin connecotrs on both ends. IF the cable -says- it's IEEE 1394 or FireWire then it should just work. Period. End of discussion. There are no other "special" FireWire cables. The only other possiblities are that there was a defect in manufacturing -- in which case, the cable just doesn't function or one of the connectors on the devices has gone bad. The simplist trouble shooting exercise is to borrow somebody else's FireWire cable and see if it works with that. If it works with a different FireWire cable, then you can safely assume the fault is in the cable itself and it needs to be replaced. If the connection still doesn't work when you use a different FireWire cable, then you'll have to assume that one of the device connectors has gone bad.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
r2hubert 0 #19 December 27, 2002 So I can assume that the cable is bad Because I use other cables without problem... I was confused because the cable I normally use is a sony ($70) and the one I bought is a ?!? ($9.9)... I guess I'm not gonna ship the cable back it's not worse it Thanks anyway! -- Renaud SMA #9 "Mind is like parachute. It only functions when it's open." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
harro 0 #20 December 30, 2002 I have been using the USB connection on my cam and no sound comes through at allJumpy Jumpy?? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Faber 0 #21 January 4, 2003 QuoteI was at Costco yesterday and saw a Pinnacle Studio DV. It's $99, comes with a firewire card and software. That waht i use,and i can highly recomand it for first time editors,its easy to use,and wery user freindly.But if you want to edidt for real i would recomend some bigger..This is real for "home-video",but its easy and if you dont care about all thouse fancy things,but just want your video whit background musik,and a few text,its just you Stay safe Stefan Faber Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
