askir 0 #1 January 13, 2003 OK for all you smart technical types.....HELP!!! I have a Sony TRV-27 digital video camera, Adobe Premier 6.5, The latest Nero cd burning s/w and all I am trying to accomplish is> Create a SVCD to play on my home DVD (which plays svcd format) and not loose or loose little quality , these will be short 5 to 10 minute videos. I am being told that I can only acheive this with a DVD burner, is that so? Please help, all I have been able to produce is low quality vcd's, the resolution sucks!!! LIFE IS LIKE A CIGARETTE, YOU CAN SIT THERE AND WATCH IT BURN AWAY OR YOU CAN SMOKE THAT BITCH TO THE FILTER Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Craig 0 #2 January 13, 2003 Was Nero with SVCD capability out before DVD burners were available to us? I noticed the VCD stuff on Nero but have not given it a try yet. I would say it is possible but check the link out below. There is some good info there but I forget what all it covers. http://www.vcdhelp.com/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oldgit 0 #3 January 13, 2003 Make your video in Premier then go to File >Export timeline > open Adobe Mpeg encoder. Select SVCD Select Pal / NTSC > name the file > Select a location on your Hard drive. Click Export Close Premiere and open Nero Select SVCD from menu Select new from right side of window Locate your saved clip on Hard drive and drag into track window on right Put a disc in CD writer and burn Hope this helps John Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RichM 0 #4 January 13, 2003 QuoteMake your video in Premier then go to File >Export timeline > open Adobe Mpeg encoder. Select SVCD Select Pal / NTSC > name the file > Select a location on your Hard drive. Click Export Close Premiere and open Nero Select SVCD from menu Select new from right side of window Locate your saved clip on Hard drive and drag into track window on right Put a disc in CD writer and burn Hope this helps John A normal CDR will be fine if your DVD player genuinely supports SVCD.Rich M Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
askir 0 #5 January 13, 2003 I tried exactly that, except that nero would tell me to reformat quality to 480 x 480, then when I play it on my DVD player it would play just fine, menus, etc, but with about half the quality of the original file (Mini DV Format) LIFE IS LIKE A CIGARETTE, YOU CAN SIT THERE AND WATCH IT BURN AWAY OR YOU CAN SMOKE THAT BITCH TO THE FILTER Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oldgit 0 #6 January 13, 2003 Are you sure in Premiere your encoding for SVCD and not VCD SVCD uses MPEG 2 and VCD uses MPEG 1 Nero should write your MPEG 2 file to SVCD without needing to adjust the quality. In the Nero menu when you select SVCD uncheck the ( create standard compliant CD ) box and see if that makes any difference SVCD will not be as good as your mini DV but still much better than VHS. HTH John Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
askir 0 #7 January 14, 2003 Yes I chose Mpeg 2 and Premier defaults it to 480 x 480, I am assuming that that is the best MPEG2 quality SVCD will accept. Perhaps the way to go is really just via DVD burner. LIFE IS LIKE A CIGARETTE, YOU CAN SIT THERE AND WATCH IT BURN AWAY OR YOU CAN SMOKE THAT BITCH TO THE FILTER Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RichM 0 #8 January 14, 2003 QuoteI tried exactly that, except that nero would tell me to reformat quality to 480 x 480, then when I play it on my DVD player it would play just fine, menus, etc, but with about half the quality of the original file (Mini DV Format) I'm no expert on Nero. but I do know that MiniDV format is a 5:1 compression of the actual data received by the CCD. True picture quality is 1Gb per minute of footage. MiniDV is 1Gb per 5 mins of footage. You can jam nearly 60 mins (?) of SVCD quality footage onto a 650Mb CDR? That's a lot of loss. Having said that I have seen some excellent SVCD results so it is possible. I suspect the Nero MPEG2 codec is not very efficient. I have used TMPGENC to generate DVD compliant MPEG2 streams with excellent quality, but thats writing to a 4.3Gb medium. I also use Dolby AC3 for quality compressed audio.Rich M Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nacmacfeegle 0 #9 January 14, 2003 RichM has the jist of the problem here, SVCD is inerently a lower quality than 'regular' DV. The tsunami compression system (aka tmpenc) is about the best I have seen for making SVCD etc. Why are you trying to make SVCD discs? You would achieve better results making a DV project, outputting in DV format to your camera, then running a VHS or SVHS (if you have the deck for it) tape copy off....Then you have a 'master copy of your edit in a format (DV) that is not discernably different from the original footage.-------------------- He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me. Thomas Jefferson Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oldgit 0 #10 January 14, 2003 Hiya Dave not heard from you in a while Making a VHS tape is a good idea but I bet Askir would have a hard time getting his DVD player to play it. Adobes encoder is not great but ok . Yes Tmpeg is very good but dammed slow. Rich M I make SVCD regularly and the quality is excellent much better than VHS also it’s a cheap way to make a disc that will play on a DVD player 15 pence each. I have also seen some real crap home made DVDs which is not very cost effective if your only making short projects John Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cameramonkey 0 #11 January 14, 2003 QuoteOK for all you smart technical types.....HELP!!! I have a Sony TRV-27 digital video camera, Adobe Premier 6.5, The latest Nero cd burning s/w and all I am trying to accomplish is> Create a SVCD to play on my home DVD (which plays svcd format) and not loose or loose little quality , these will be short 5 to 10 minute videos. I am being told that I can only acheive this with a DVD burner, is that so? Please help, all I have been able to produce is low quality vcd's, the resolution sucks!!! In a word, YES. SVCD is VHS quality. the only way to keep your DV the same quality is to burn it to DVD or keep it on a DV tape. And bear in mind not all DVD boxes can handle recorded DVD/VCD disks, and even those that do sometimes have problems with specific brands of disks. The best site for info about this stuff is http://www.vcdhelp.com . Anything and everything you wanted to know about burning your own VCD/SVCD/DVD movies.Two wrongs don't make a right, however three lefts DO! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
askir 0 #12 January 15, 2003 Thanks guys, I have tinkered enough with thid and I was finally able to produce an OK quality SVCD that did play on my DVD and on all machines that claimed to handle SVCD at Circuit City, those guys were great by letting me play with their machines. Anyhow I think I will save my money and get that Sony DRU 500A, it sound like a good DVD burner at $ 319.99 LIFE IS LIKE A CIGARETTE, YOU CAN SIT THERE AND WATCH IT BURN AWAY OR YOU CAN SMOKE THAT BITCH TO THE FILTER Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nacmacfeegle 0 #13 January 15, 2003 "Hiya Dave not heard from you in a while" John McCourt, whats the craic? Fife right? Good to see you here....-------------------- He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me. Thomas Jefferson Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
n2skdvn 0 #14 January 17, 2003 Quote I think I will save my money and get that Sony DRU 500A, it sound like a good DVD burner at $ 319.99 I have that burner and it works great for me it comes with nero dvd witch works ok but i am looking for somthing that will make more profesional looking dvd's(ie chapters ect)if my calculations are correct SLINKY + ESCULATOR = EVERLASTING FUN my site Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
