adamjenner 0 #1 March 4, 2003 Mindwarp is in the mail and i was wondering once i get into phtotography which is better to have? I think it's obvious the D-box but i'm wondering if it's worth the cash when i could pay $50 for an L braket which basically does the same thing...hold the camera is it better to go the cheaper route or pay the extra $100 for a D-box? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #2 March 4, 2003 Take alook at the scratches on the outside of some of the Dboxes at the DZ some time. They both have their pluses, if i was doing tandem videos an L bracket would save a lot of time.Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BoobieCootie 0 #3 March 4, 2003 I'll have to agree with you there. I'm convinced that the price of a "box" is small relative to replacing the camera. I've always thought that the protection was only good for riser strikes, until I was told about the lense assembly getting taken out because of the wide angle lense getting struck in freefall.Then I've also been told about tape fluttering due to air coming into the camera (more on old style 8 and Hi8 though). And how even a condom was minimal. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cheneyneel 0 #4 March 4, 2003 Yea but I have jumped with a L bracket for a year now and I really like it.. I now have a RAWA that has a fixed DBox.. But I still have my other helmet because I can change the angle anyway I want.. I can even film backwards easily while I am ono the ride up.. SOme L brackets arent like that though.. I know that the manufactures of I think the Velocity helmets make really good versitile L brackets that let you change angles even to backwards.. All my base buddies always use my L Bracket helmet to film their openings on a local antena, and when jumping new canopies I use it to view the parts of opening that I dont regularily see.. Good video once you do it a few times and get the angle perfect... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lewmonst 0 #5 March 4, 2003 My first camera helmet was a Mindwarp with a D-box (PC-5). My second is an Optik with an L-bracket. I didn't like the D-Box becuase it didn't mount flush with the Mindwarp, and has slight convex curvature on the mounting side. I felt like my camera was way out there on the side. The L bracket is definately less bulky and my camera doesn't stick out as far. I also didn't like the D-Box becuase it was a hassle to get into the camera functions or review a jump. It's nice with the L-bracket, all I have to do is flip the screen open or just look into the viewfinder, especially nice for doing tandem videos. And after a couple of well abused years on my PC-5, i knocked it off a 3 foot gear rack and broke it. It was on the L-bracket, whereas it probably would have survived in the D-box. I still like the L-bracket better, just have to be more protective of handling it. I've never had a riser stike my camera, so I haven't had any issues with that. just my experience... peacehttp://www.exitshot.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
adamjenner 0 #6 March 4, 2003 Yeah cuz I know one jumper at our DZ who has a Dbox on his mindwarp and whenever he opens he turns his head slightly to avoid riser strike just in case I guess. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #7 March 5, 2003 Please tell me your profile isn't correct. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
adamjenner 0 #8 March 5, 2003 of course not But i'm just curious about getting either and L-braket or d-dox hahaha Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mountainman 0 #9 March 5, 2003 Lew - do you use a camera condom with that L-bracket ? Just curious. http://www.brandonandlaura.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lewmonst 0 #10 March 6, 2003 no, but i purchased the extended warranty. http://www.exitshot.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mountainman 0 #11 March 6, 2003 Quote no, but i purchased the extended warranty. LOL !! I got the 4 year extended as well. Hopefully I wont need it when the times comes that I can jump it. Thanks for the laugh. :)http://www.brandonandlaura.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skeletor 0 #12 March 7, 2003 Yeah I shelled out for the extra warranty too but it's pretty much useless. "The warranty does not cover equipment which is misused, .... or damaged as a result of accident, water, grit, impact or lack of propper care." rich. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lewmonst 0 #13 March 7, 2003 i think my warranty covers more than that. They already swapped the camera after we borke one of the ends of a cam-eye off in it and couldn't get it out, they just gave us a new one, on the spot. can't beat that. peacehttp://www.exitshot.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cajones 0 #14 March 7, 2003 And our warranty specifically allows coverage from water or moisture. It does not allow for "cosmetic" damage. It does include cleaning and alignments. The laws of physics are strictly enforced. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skeletor 0 #15 March 7, 2003 I got the Mack 4 year extended warranty, cost me $285. How many different types of extended warrranty are there anyway ? rich.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
murrays 0 #16 March 8, 2003 QuoteHow many different types of extended warranty are there anyway ? rich..Lots and lots....retailers love selling customers these warranties on electronics because they make a ton of money on warranties. Chains do their own warranties as well as manufacturers. They might lose money on skydiving videographers but they more than make it up on the general public. Generally I never buy these things but based on the experiences of many camerajumpers I might reconsider whenever I buy a new camcorder.-- Murray "No tyranny is so irksome as petty tyranny: the officious demands of policemen, government clerks, and electromechanical gadgets." - Edward Abbey Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mountainman 0 #17 March 9, 2003 Quotei think my warranty covers more than that. They already swapped the camera after we borke one of the ends of a cam-eye off in it and couldn't get it out, they just gave us a new one, on the spot. can't beat that. peace Who do you have yours through, Lew ?http://www.brandonandlaura.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cajones 0 #18 March 9, 2003 I'm not Lew - she's far better looking than I am. We don't know the exact name of the warranty company, but they provide the warranties for both Best Buy and Ultimate Electronics. The warranty paperwork has a toll-free number you can call to find the nearest service center or drop-off for carry-in service. They also do in-home plans on some things (like our televisions), that are transferrable (if you sell the TV), and go wherever your house goes (our house has wheels). The laws of physics are strictly enforced. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
