thefreak 0 #1 May 22, 2003 does anyone know where to get a hand mount..i saw one in a magazine (parachutist or skydive magazine) and dont know where to get one...i have a pc100 so i am sure it would fit...it looked like neoprene..send email to trenty75@hotmail.com if you could please thanks trenti'm out like a fat kid playing dodgeball Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #2 May 22, 2003 RiggerRob on here makes them. I'd contact him about them.Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thefreak 0 #3 May 22, 2003 cool..wish i could get one right away....i am doing a 32,000 foot jump this weekend..and wanted to take camera...butttttt oh well..alot of moisture up there though....worried about camerai'm out like a fat kid playing dodgeball Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riggerrob 643 #4 May 22, 2003 Since you are in Tennessee and I am in Canada, it will be tough to mail you a hand mount in time for the weekend. Fortunately, Beezy Shaw at Precision has a hand mount that I sewed for his PC101. Try calling Beezy at the factory and ask if he will loan it out. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ManBird 0 #5 May 22, 2003 http://www.users.bigpond.com/gruntre69/Index.htm#top"¯"`-._.-¯) ManBird (¯-._.-´"¯" Click Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riggerrob 643 #6 June 12, 2003 Beezy Shaw just sent me some video footage that he took at Tullahoma, Tennessee. Beezy stuffed his SONY IP5 into a wrist-mount that I sewed for him. The footage is awesome! Great coverage of the tandem students' faces all the way from exit to landing! My whuffo girlfriend even said she would pay extra for wrist-mounted video because she thinks it is a better product! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kopko 0 #7 June 12, 2003 Might go well here too. I got to see some vid's from Beezy and was very impressed with the extra footage. Shots missed by a traditional camera guy such as the 'up close' exit and canopy ride only enhanced the students video. It was great to see and hear the tandem student under canopy. I think a mix of the two dubbed together would be the ultimate tandem video. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chachi 0 #8 June 12, 2003 Only problem is spending the extra time to do the mixing. Videographer already are not paid enough, so taking the extra time to do it would not be worth it to me, unless it was my gf maybe. I do all my shooting with fades and wipes in camera so all I have to do is add music and titles as I'm dumping it to VHS for the client. ~Chachi Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kopko 0 #9 June 12, 2003 I agree the extra cost, time, etc. is probably not worth it, but you have to agree it would be a pretty damn cool tandem video. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WayneRATS 0 #10 June 12, 2003 sorry to hijack..but if a small wrist mount camera was to be used.. (bout the size of an alti) would there be still the BPA 200 jump restriction on it (scratches head)------------------------ Can You Ere Me Now? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #11 June 12, 2003 I think only an official from the BPA could accurately answer this, but I would assume so unless specifically told otherwise.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riggerrob 643 #12 June 13, 2003 Quotesorry to hijack..but if a small wrist mount camera was to be used.. (bout the size of an alti) would there be still the BPA 200 jump restriction on it (scratches head) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sorry, but no-one outside the UK understands BPA policy. The mount that I built for Beezy secures the camera to the back side of his left hand, leaving his fingers and palms free to grab toggles, etc. The Australian Parachute Federation has published guidelines that limit the use of hand-mounted cameras to instructors who have made more than 500 tandem jumps. No-one has published standards about solo jumpers strapping cameras to their wrists. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oldgit 0 #13 June 13, 2003 The BPA ops manual states "Cameras may only be used by FAI C (red) parachutists" I would take that to mean any type of camera. HTH John Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WayneRATS 0 #14 June 13, 2003 DOH ------------------------ Can You Ere Me Now? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
slayer21016 2 #15 June 14, 2003 I just started using miniature cylinder cameras (referred to as bullet or lip stick cams) that use a sony 1/3" SUPER HAD CCD from a company called KT&C (KT&C.co.kr) that i got with a 2.45mm lens with a 150 deg horizontal angle of view, color w/ 420 lines of horizontal resolution. there very easy to mount any were you want and I'm using a mini-DV camcorder in a fanny pack as the record deck. the view is about as wide as you can get (150 DEG) and the video looks every bit as good as video shot with the camcorder that is the record deck. now i don't need the bulky belly cam,shoe cam,glove mounts that scared allot of people (except me because i was the one wearing them all of the time). i attached it (camera head) to a glove with some elastic tape. this style of camera and some of the flat models that KT&C sells allow an almost unlimited number of mounting locations limited only by your imagination. and much safer than mounting a full size camcorder on your hand,foot or canopy. The model # I'm using is KCP-S230C Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riggerrob 643 #16 June 17, 2003 QuoteI just started using miniature cylinder cameras (referred to as bullet or lip stick cams) that use a sony 1/3" SUPER HAD CCD from a company called KT&C (KT&C.co.kr) that i got with a 2.45mm lens with a 150 deg horizontal angle of view, color w/ 420 lines of horizontal resolution. there very easy to mount any were you want and I'm using a mini-DV camcorder in a fanny pack as the record deck. the view is about as wide as you can get (150 DEG) and the video looks every bit as good as video shot with the camcorder that is the record deck. now i don't need the bulky belly cam,shoe cam,glove mounts that scared allot of people (except me because i was the one wearing them all of the time). i attached it (camera head) to a glove with some elastic tape. this style of camera and some of the flat models that KT&C sells allow an almost unlimited number of mounting locations limited only by your imagination. and much safer than mounting a full size camcorder on your hand,foot or canopy. The model # I'm using is KCP-S230C >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Good point Slayer. I just have not figured out where to hang a fanny pack on a tandem master who is stuffed into a cramped Cessna. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "and much safer than mounting a full size camcorder on your hand,foot or canopy." I want to repeat that tandem instructors are only strapping the latest and tiniest Mini DV and Micro DV cameras to their hands. If a camera weights much more than a pound, forget it! Preferred models are SONY's IP5, IP7, PC9, PC 101, PC105, etc. I am currently sewing a wrist mount for a SONY DCR TRV 22. JVC, SAMSUNG, etc also make some camcorders that are tiny enough for wrist mounts. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
czechbase 0 #18 October 26, 2003 Nice cameras! Which one do you use exactly? The S230CV or the or S230CWXR? There are a few... Thanks!www.motavi.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riggerrob 643 #19 November 11, 2003 Sky Monkey One, Paul Rafferty and the other Raefordites will be pleased to hear that I sent a sample hand-mount to the Golden Knights Tandem Section and they have promised to share it with curious skydivers. The sample hand-mount is sized for a SONY PC 9, Altimaster III and a medium-large hand. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riggerrob 643 #20 November 12, 2003 A guy PMed me asking about building a hand-mount for a SONY DRC-TRV38. Sorry dude, but I am struggling to figure out how to strap a 6 3/8 inch deep camera to a hand that is only 4 inches deep without increasing the overhang and risk of entanglement. Do you folks have any thoughts? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #21 November 12, 2003 Tell him he needs to invest in another camera. His life may depend on it.---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riggerrob 643 #22 November 15, 2003 Several people have p-med me asking about prices and delivery times for hand-mounts, so I will just answer in bulk. Current prices on hand-mounts are about US$120. or Aus$180. plus shipping. They normally ship within a week of the order. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
