Maximus1 0 #1 September 10, 2003 Looking for camera suit w/small wings to start. Prefer used since I'll likely ditch it soon and go to medium or large wings once I'm comfortable. Where can I get something like this? Am I better off just investing in a custom new suit and who has the best price point? - Maximus It's not that I'm afraid to die, I just don't want to be there when it happens. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vdschoor 0 #2 September 10, 2003 More experienced people might say different, but this is what I did: I bought the suit I thought I was going to need to be able to fly the range and after talking to other people what they had, and why. I figured I needed the big wings, at least that's what I got, I am heavy enough to even go fast with those, although I haven't tried the max fallrate with them yet. It will be funny the first couple of jumps, that's why you want those jumps to be with just the suit, get used to the wings, use them and find out how it acts on deployment. The wing might cover your bridle, stuff like that. Also, read this article by Quade: http://www.futurecam.com/cameraWingSetUp.html Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davelepka 4 #3 September 10, 2003 I would talk to the camera flyers at your DZ about this. I would be surprised if they said anything but, "Maybe you should log a couple hundred jumps before you start thinking about video, or a camera suit." Why not learn to fly your body as it is, with a normal jumpsuit. Then maybe put some jumps on a camera with your regular suit, and get used to that. Then put some jumps on a camera suit (no camera), and get used to that. Then put the two together, and see how it works out. Anyway you look at it, you need more jumps. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maximus1 0 #4 September 10, 2003 In the 40 or so camera jumps I've made to date, I've felt entirely comfortable and have been able to out-float almost everything I’ve filmed from tandems to 10-ways. More of the issue relates to the scenario where I am out on a subject and need to cover horizontal distance while maintaining relative altitude. I can do this today by creating a wind scoop with my arms while moving toward the target, but even small wings would give me greater flexibility in my decent rate and increased ability to climb up the hill on exit. Besides, I’d like to practice on some sort of wing suit before my scheduled birdman suit jump next month. - Maximus It's not that I'm afraid to die, I just don't want to be there when it happens. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davelepka 4 #5 September 10, 2003 Is your profile not up to date? It says you have 78 jumps. With 40 camera jumps and Birdman jumps coming soon, my guess is that you have several hundered by now (I hope). If this is the case, I stand by my advice, talk to your local camera guys. They know you and your build and can give you a better idea of what to look for. I'm not sure if a camera suit with a small wing will help prep you for Birdman, but good luck anyway. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #6 September 10, 2003 A camera suit in no way is the same as a Wingsuit jump. There are SO many differences that the only thing similar is you have more material. As a wingsuit jumper I'll tell you 200 jumps is the BARE min I'd ever want a friend in a suit with. I think that instead of trying to alter your fallrate while moving horizontal via your wings you need to do it via your body. Wings are better for hovering on the edge of the burble then they are for climbing in a track.Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maximus1 0 #7 September 10, 2003 Just kidding about the birdman jump. I'll wait until 500 jumps or so. I know many people tell you to wait until jump number X before trying Y, however it seems that a skill set and level of comfort would be more applicable to these situations. I am attempting to do my due diligence by asking technical advice of knowledgeable jumpers both in this forum and at my home DZ. Based upon a combination of their feedback and my own experience, I would make or not make the decision to add an additional element to my jumps. Having said that, any specific advice on manufactures, models, sizes, new vs. used for a first camera suit would be appreciated. From a safety standpoint, any advice on specific skill sets that should first be mastered would also be helpful. QuoteWings are better for hovering on the edge of the burble then they are for climbing in a track. I see your point. Why do most video men jump with a wingsuit / camerasuit when filming tandems? What is the advantage in this scenario other than increased fall rate flexibility? - Maximus It's not that I'm afraid to die, I just don't want to be there when it happens. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites