sarge 0 #1 December 19, 2003 This will be my first camera set-up and that being the case ... new helmet and box. My first choice was a midwarp and bone-head box. The helmet I have to get is the small and the box is the large. My concern is that I never paid really close attention to other peoples similar set-ups and now I am wondering if that set-up will be dangerous for snag points and gaps for lines and risers to catch on? Is there another helmet/box set-up anyone knows of or has been using that I could explore if my concerns about snag-points are realistic? any input would be appreciated ! .-- I'm done with the personally meaningful and philosophical sigs!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #2 December 19, 2003 Id say if you want to go the BoneHead route (I like em' too) go with the Optik, as it is designed to fit that D-Box nicely, and reduce those snag hazards though a flat/flush mounting surface, and a built in riser ramp. The Mind warp is do-able, but not nearly as pretty, clean, or easy to make snag free.---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sarge 0 #3 December 19, 2003 Quote the Optik, as it is designed to fit that D-Box nicely, and reduce those snag hazards The Optic... Yes, Its a quick and (relatively) easy solution. One which, now that the $$$ goes up with that consideration leads me to wonder about some of the more obscure products, like the Rawa and that company out of England? The Optic seems much more realistic, given my reservations about the Mindwarp though! You're totally right about it looking good too! .-- I'm done with the personally meaningful and philosophical sigs!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masher 1 #4 December 19, 2003 Have you had a look at Cookie Composites? I'm thinking about getting a camera setup, and they're definately number one on my list.-- Arching is overrated - Marlies Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sarge 0 #5 December 19, 2003 No, not before now. I like the box for sure! I sent a message asking if they had anything for the larger pc120/330 cameras yet. Thanks!! good one ; looks very nice! .-- I'm done with the personally meaningful and philosophical sigs!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sdsouthsask 0 #6 December 19, 2003 I also sent them an e-mail about a box for the 330 and here was the responce I got: QuoteHmm That is a good question mark. We are putting some finishing touches to our helmet range and then the 330 box is on the list. This will be a couple of months away though. This was from November 18th this year. Let me know if they made any progress with the PC 330 box as they look to be far superior box. Mark Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Squeak 17 #7 December 19, 2003 Cookie composites are great helmets. I met one of the test heads and he posposely treatsa them like shit then lets Cookie know how they went. Made by skydivers, treated like shit by skydivers, for skydiversYou are not now, nor will you ever be, good enough to not die in this sport (Sparky) My Life ROCKS! How's yours doing? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AlvaroCarvalho 0 #8 December 19, 2003 About Cookie Composites... I bought this Camera Box for my PC9 and i couldn't be more happy about it. ________________________________________ Hey...ho...let's go! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deuce 1 #9 December 20, 2003 Yeah, I like that box better than my new-generation toploading D-box from Bonehead. Doug, if you're going with a sidemount, the Optic or the Hawkeye are really nice helmets. If there's any chance you may ever want to do stills, get an Optic or the Hawkeye LT. My Hawkeye is in here somewhere, ah, screw it, I'll take a picture. Attached. I've got about 500 camera jumps on this helmet and I've never had a riser strike or come close to snagging anything. I think the chincup is extra on the Bonehead, but the helmet is probably lighter. A chincup is really a must, I think. The color is gelcoat on the Hawkeye, so if you rash it you just put some clear nailpolish on and it's good to go. Same for the carbon fiber finished boneheads. The Rawa is cool too, but you'll notice I have everything cranked up on this helmet cause I'm a stiff old bastard and I can't get my neck back as far as I'd like. The enclosed box helmets limit how far you can angle the video camera. I'm an unabashed tandem video whore, though, so that may not be a concern. LouDiamond's Rawa is sweet. The European stuff will be a fortune at the current exchange rates. Cheers. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AlvaroCarvalho 0 #10 December 20, 2003 QuoteThe enclosed box helmets limit how far you can angle the video camera. I see that most camera boxes have four screw points to attach on the helmet...how do you change the angle of the camera? I don't think it will make any difference to me since i use a 0.3x wide angle lens... Blues skies!! __________________________________________________ Hey...ho...let's go! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deuce 1 #11 December 20, 2003 Alvaro, on the Rawa and the Y2K composites helmets, the box is integrated with the rest of the helmet. It limits the amount you can angle the camera back. This really only applies to creaky old inflexible bastards who insist on shooting tandems on their bellys. It's really only an issue for tandem video whores like me. But maybe Sarge aspires to exactly that kind of video-whore status, so it's something to consider. The Y2K and Rawa helmets I've seen are beautifully finished. As I progress I want more and more flexibility and that's why I'm gravitating to the platform helmets. After you drill too many holes, just replace the platform. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sarge 0 #12 December 22, 2003 Hey Mark, Just got this msg back today.. "That's a good question Doug. We have just finished a new box for trv style camera and the 330 will be our next project, estimated time of arrival February." Looks like they are committed to being active in staying competitive. Gotta like that! .-- I'm done with the personally meaningful and philosophical sigs!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sarge 0 #13 December 22, 2003 But maybe Sarge aspires to exactly that kind of video-whore status *** Actually JP, I'm not sure where this will take me. My strongest desire is that it not take into the ground. I have -zero- video/camera experience and really only started thinking about it just last year. But what a dream though.... I'm pretty confident of my flying skills in the mediums I've practiced in well over 500 jumps. But I've never been near a tandem, big way or lurked (as in a carema position) a ff formation... my multi-task skills vary from day-to-day/minute to minute... so I really need to simplify as much as possible. I used to think camera flyers were a special breed; after 6 years of jumping, I'm well aware they are! I just really want to do this right. Nontheless the desire to be a camera/video flyer is as strong as my ambition to compete in canopy swooping!! It just seems like the camera is a more realistic goal. Anyway, with the help of a lot of input from many people I am leaning towards the Optic helmet, just not decided about a box/bracket/etc...? thanks .-- I'm done with the personally meaningful and philosophical sigs!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #14 December 23, 2003 QuoteI think the chincup is extra on the Bonehead, but the helmet is probably lighter. A chincup is really a must, I think. The chincup is included in the price of the Optik. The chincup you have on your Hawkeye is a $40 option. The chincup the Hawkeye comes with for no additional charge is a 4 snap hockey, or football style. I kinda like it better.---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
