Deuce 1 #1 April 5, 2004 http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=NavBar&A=getItemDetail&Q=&sku=244774&is=REG&si=spec#goto_itemInfo Anybody used anything like this? I got a gig in Europe this summer and I have a US version of the PC120. Actually I have two. The dookicky I listed states that it converts the signal digitally, so I don't see any downside to using it instead of going even deeper in hock to get a PAL camera. Feedback? Thanks. JP Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LouDiamond 1 #2 April 5, 2004 Deuce, I would look closely at how you envison using this based on the input/output connections listed. Are you wanting to go from mini DV(NTSC) to VHS(PAL) direct through the box? I would check the VCR, TV and any other device that you plan on using for plug compatability."It's just skydiving..additional drama is not required" Some people dream about flying, I live my dream SKYMONKEY PUBLISHING Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deuce 1 #3 April 5, 2004 I'm thinking I'd like to be able to download into cameras and VCR's in Sweden. We'll also be doing debriefs, and I'd like to be able to do those in real time on the European gear. I'm basically trying to avoid getting a PAL camera that I would use almost never. We've gotten around the tourists needing PAL at the dropzone by providing them with DVD's. Most of the modern DVD's don't have problems with them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LouDiamond 1 #4 April 5, 2004 Quoteto be able to download into cameras and VCR's in Sweden. We'll also be doing debriefs, and I'd like to be able to do those in real time on the European gear. I would drop a line to the folks in Sweden about the equipment they have on hand first as they may already have a NTSC hook up. I know SDA had one(industrial VCR) capable of handling PAL/NTSC inputs/outputs. it would suck to show up with your nifty new box and cables and none of their gear was plug compatable."It's just skydiving..additional drama is not required" Some people dream about flying, I live my dream SKYMONKEY PUBLISHING Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deuce 1 #5 April 5, 2004 Hey, bro, I'm just laying the groundwork early. I probably should have just waited to see what the folks over there need me to have, but I never pass up an opportunity to expose my thirst for knowledge. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LouDiamond 1 #6 April 5, 2004 QuoteHey, bro, I'm just laying the groundwork early. I am right there with you, way to lean forward in the foxhole and think ahead."It's just skydiving..additional drama is not required" Some people dream about flying, I live my dream SKYMONKEY PUBLISHING Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nacmacfeegle 0 #7 April 5, 2004 "but I never pass up an opportunity to expose my thirst for knowledge." Or appetite for shiney new toys? Herc Boogie huh? Noice. Okay most modern European PAL tvs and vcrs will take an analogue NTSC signal in and display it. Shame we can't say the same about your crappy NTSC stuff. Its not 'true NTSC' but it will show a picture. So your probably good for debrief and party tapes, the main hassles these days come at edit stage, which I'm sure you can overcome later via a professional standards convertor if needs be. Speak to Schwede his face is all over the video page of the Boogie website.-------------------- He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me. Thomas Jefferson Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vdschoor 0 #8 April 5, 2004 JP, Most modern PAL TV's will display the picture, in nice quality! I thought the same that my equipment wouldn't work on a European TV, but it does.. You just have to use a different connection. Normally you can just plug your camera in the front of the TV in the video connector (at least on newer Sony TV's this is true) What you need to do in Europe is use the SCART connection in the back. They sell scart connectors that you can just plug your cables from the PC120 into and it will work.\ I don't know about transferring it to VHS, I've never tried that. Iwan Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deuce 1 #9 April 5, 2004 Thanks. I'll order some scart connectors. 'preciate that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vdschoor 0 #10 April 5, 2004 QuoteThanks. I'll order some scart connectors. 'preciate that. Get the ones that have SCART on one side, and the plugs (red, white and yellow) on the other. Those should do the job for ya Iwan Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jmfreefly 0 #11 April 5, 2004 Yeah, I had the same questions when I travelled to OZ for the Equinox Boogie. Turned out I could firewire footage from PAL without any problem, and all of the non-US tvs could handle NTSC without any issue (they are way smarter than we are.. The only issue I had was trying to download the PAL footage from my camera on to my NLE (AVID), and that my it said I needed a PAL camera to do it (even though it would play fine on my PC100's screen, and I had originally firewired it without problem). My buddy is coming to the US from OZ, and so maybe I will finally be able to pull the footage off his PAL camera. j Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nacmacfeegle 0 #12 April 6, 2004 "Thanks. I'll order some scart connectors. " Scart comes in many flavours and varieties, Deuce. One of these will do the job, and it will allow you to pass composite or SVHS analogue signals both ways (switchable) ..... 10 bucks or so. Edit cos I forgot to show a picture......-------------------- He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me. Thomas Jefferson Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LouDiamond 1 #13 April 6, 2004 Quote10 bucks or so. That sure beats $180.00 bucks now doesn't it Deuce?"It's just skydiving..additional drama is not required" Some people dream about flying, I live my dream SKYMONKEY PUBLISHING Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freefalle 0 #14 April 6, 2004 Im not sure it will meet your needs but when I was in Titusville filming for the Sweedish team, we used a VCR that was able to imput in NTSC but recorded it to the tape in PAL if thats something your intrested in finding out more about let me know and Ill get the information off of it next time Im there. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vdschoor 0 #15 April 6, 2004 Quote"Thanks. I'll order some scart connectors. " Scart comes in many flavours and varieties, Deuce. One of these will do the job, and it will allow you to pass composite or SVHS analogue signals both ways (switchable) ..... 10 bucks or so. Thanks, that was the one I was talking about. One thing about that, I don't think it converts the signal to PAL, it's just that that input on TV's seems to accept NTSC and displays it correctly. I would find out what the camera team requires and what they have before starting to spend money on this. (even though it is only 10 bucks) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nacmacfeegle 0 #16 April 6, 2004 "One thing about that, I don't think it converts the signal to PAL," No it doesn't, Scooter, its merely a connector between the composite/SVHS and the 21 or so pins on a SCART. The wee adaptors that come with most camcorders are one way only, these are a little more useful for various footage plundering activities. This won't defeat macrovision etc either, but there are adaptors out there that can. I don't think our American brothers and sisters use an awful lot of SCART connections, but they are very common over here.-------------------- He who receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine; as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me. Thomas Jefferson Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vdschoor 0 #17 April 6, 2004 Quote I don't think our American brothers and sisters use an awful lot of SCART connections, but they are very common over here. I know.. I am originally from that side of the pond my friend Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
