pyke 0 #1 April 5, 2004 Possibly a non-issue, but my Thought Of The Day was wondering how much of a factor your camera set-up affects your freefall stability? I'm about to top-mount my d-box to my Hawkeye, and want to know if the flat surface on the top of it is going to adversely affect my stability when I learn to go head-down (later, much later!!). I've heard of some camera flyers refer to the "fin" aspect of top-mounted cameras...does that hold any water?? Heck, in looking at some camera set-ups...(even the centerfold of a Parachutist I have in my cube) I wouldn't be surprised if it does have some affect, but perhaps not enough to be noticed by "more experienced" flyers. Care to comment?? Kahurangi e Mahearangi, Kiwi, RB #926, AFF-I, FAA Snr. Rigger, RN/BSN/Paramedic Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flyingarab 0 #2 April 5, 2004 I was having the hardest time doing a head down with my still on my head. I have a hawkeye with side mount and top mount and when the top mount was used, it almost acted like a fin. When the air would hit it as a slight angle, I tended to move in that direction. I decided not too long ago to try it with the helmet off and what a difference it made. Just be ready to really work on it.Sincerely, FlyingArab www.flyingarab.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jeiber 0 #3 April 5, 2004 I have a Bonehead Mindwarp with a Sony TRV topmounted, and it definitely affects my head down, especially when freeflying the exit. Transitions are alot quicker too, and I over rotated a couple times when first flying it. If I had it to do all over, I'd buy a camera that I could side mount... Oh yeah, Torque = Force x Length, meaning the further the camera is from my neck, the more force is exerted on it. I'm tall, so I'm always bumping the camera inside the plane. Just my 2 cents! JShhh... you hear that sound? That's the sound of nobody caring! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #4 April 5, 2004 QuoteCare to comment?? FWIW, IMO if the camera set up is causing you to have troubles flying in your desired body position, or affecting your stability you need to take the camera hlemet off and practice flying some more. Cameras should only be added when "thinking" about flight is no longer an issue. Norman Kend does a very good seminar about this. large set up/top mount/side mount/ect.: If it's preventing you from flying how you want, put it away for a while. Oh and as to the "fin" effect? At LEAST one gold medal winning freefly team at last years nationals had a top mount set up.---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LouDiamond 1 #5 April 5, 2004 Having a top mount does have a fin or rudder like effect. It is quite noticeable when Birdmaning with my FT pro and requires me to compensate. I can see how it would also effect you when FFing. If you are trying to learn HD I'd recommend you do it with out the top mount first."It's just skydiving..additional drama is not required" Some people dream about flying, I live my dream SKYMONKEY PUBLISHING Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The111 1 #6 November 10, 2005 QuoteOh and as to the "fin" effect? At LEAST one gold medal winning freefly team at last years nationals had a top mount set up. Hmm, what if you have to do a spock? Yes, I'm replying to an ancient post...www.WingsuitPhotos.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #7 November 11, 2005 QuoteQuoteOh and as to the "fin" effect? At LEAST one gold medal winning freefly team at last years nationals had a top mount set up. Hmm, what if you have to do a spock? Yes, I'm replying to an ancient post... With the cameraflyer?---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The111 1 #8 November 11, 2005 Obviously I don't know much about freefly competition standards, I guess I assumed flyers wore inside video too.www.WingsuitPhotos.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #9 November 11, 2005 Competition freefly is 3 people. 2 Flyers and a camera person. The camera persons angle is the only one judgable, however the way they fly it can also add to the score.---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davelepka 4 #10 November 11, 2005 You'll have a problem if you're built like an 8 year old girl. If your helmet fits properly, and your neck is larger than a pencil, you'll have no problem flying the camera around. I would take the time to learn how to jump your camera, and how to freefly seperately. Combining them will only slow your progress, and have you whining about the wind pushing around your camera. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davelepka 4 #11 November 11, 2005 OK, I just noticed that your post was over a year old. By now you've jumped your camera and found out for yourself. OK really, Divinswoop has groopies? If you're number one, how many are there? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
