kallend 2,026 #1 May 9, 2004 "Newton" Ring sights do not operate on the Newton's Rings principle, but on the basis of birefringence, a phenomenon that Newton could not explain at all. Birefringence was first explained by Thomas Young. So why does Newton get the credit? He was a genius anyway, so he doesn't need credit for stuff he didn't do.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #2 May 9, 2004 Who cares. Its a product name, it doesn't really matter.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #3 May 9, 2004 Maybe it's not a reference to the scientist, but the cookie. quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cloggy 1 #4 May 9, 2004 Newton first described the phenomenon in 1675. Guess Newton's name just stuck to it... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #5 May 10, 2004 "Uh oh, now ya done gone and done it." quade turns to the wise, elder, physics Professor and says, "please be kind to this person."quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 219 #6 May 10, 2004 Because, if you look closely enough, and use the imagination a bit, John, you can see the resmblence between the effect of light on the ring site to a fig in a tree.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,026 #7 May 10, 2004 QuoteWho cares. Its a product name, it doesn't really matter. When I was a student I resented having to learn things that, in my opinion, weren't interesting or had nothing to do with my intended career. Now, 40 years later, I find it hard to think of a single thing I ever learned that I do not value in some way - even the Latin. Knowledge IS power.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #8 May 11, 2004 QuoteI find it hard to think of a single thing I ever learned that I do not value in some way - even the Latin. Knowledge IS power. I can agree with that, by now through conversations on this site you should realize that I'm definately not someone opposed to learning and gaining knowledge (I'm talking outside of skydiving right now). Still though, its just a product name. You could argue that Coke isn't Coke any more since cocaine isn't in the forumla now. Still doesn't matter, its still just a product name.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mre 0 #9 May 11, 2004 Could you perhaps explain the two phenomena and how they differ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,026 #10 May 11, 2004 QuoteCould you perhaps explain the two phenomena and how they differ? Newton's Rings are due to interference between light reflected from two surfaces in close proximity, one is usually flat and the other spherical. The rings are then centered on the point of contact or closest approach between the surfaces and do not move with the observer's eye. If you could make a sight using this phenomenon it would be useless anyway, because of that fact. Ring sights work due to interference between polarized light beams travelling at different speeds (and therefore with different wavelength) through a birefringent material (a stretched polymer, or a crystal of something like calcite). These rings are centered on the observer's eye, thus keeping the target in the proper place in the sight even if the eye is being jolted around.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mre 0 #11 May 14, 2004 Thanks! I can't quite visualize it, though. What other parts go in the sight apart from the birefringent material? Is there a sketch somewhere? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,026 #12 May 15, 2004 QuoteThanks! I can't quite visualize it, though. What other parts go in the sight apart from the birefringent material? Is there a sketch somewhere? Polarizers on each side of the birefringent element, and 1/4 wave plates in the case of ring (as opposed to cross) sights.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites