stellettorider 0 #1 April 12, 2003 Hi All Has anyone seen one of Aerodyne International's Smart reserves? If so what is your impression of them? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sarge57 0 #2 April 12, 2003 havent seen it yet, but I hope theyre good, since I just bought one being assembled in my Odyssey. Seems the company is run by some pretty good old timers.....ooooooooooooooooooooooooowwwwwwwwwhhhhhhhaaaaaaaaatttarrrrrrrruuuuuuuuuuusssssssssshhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stellettorider 0 #3 April 12, 2003 That's funny I just ordered one to put in my new Odysey container. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skybytch 273 #4 April 13, 2003 I've seen two. They come in really nice boxes. That's about all I can say about them at this point; we've been too busy lately to pull one out and really look at it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CrazyIvan 0 #5 April 13, 2003 What's that all about? what's the difference with REGULAR reserves? "...I need input...MORE input" Johnny Five __________________________________________ Blue Skies and May the Force be with you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weid14 0 #6 April 13, 2003 Quote What's that all about? what's the difference with REGULAR reserves? "...I need input...MORE input" they function in conjunction with an AAD and steer you clear of any potential issues and flair for you in case you're knocked out and the AAD deploys the reserve..... in reality it's just a name. Johnny Five Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SickMonkey 0 #7 April 13, 2003 Reserves are built by humans. Infer what you will. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
b1jercat 0 #8 April 13, 2003 I think I'll take a wait and see atititude on this one. blue skies Just a little late night post whoreing, I'll spread my legs for anybody. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CrazyIvan 0 #9 April 13, 2003 This is what I've found about SMART reserves. http://www.cloud9skydiving.co.nz/reserves.html Why SMART and not STRONG?, kinda misleading don't you thing?__________________________________________ Blue Skies and May the Force be with you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skybytch 273 #10 April 13, 2003 QuoteWhy SMART and not STRONG?, Probably because there's already a skydiving equipment manufacturer in the US with the name Strong. They build containers, reserves, mains and tandem systems, and do a lot of stuff for the military. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerm 0 #11 April 14, 2003 AND their fearless leader did a tandem off The Bridge back before tandem skydiving was legal.. crazy MFer... Landing without injury is not necessarily evidence that you didn't fuck up... it just means you got away with it this time Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skygod7777 0 #12 April 14, 2003 the smart reserves are super strong, and have nice flight performance. my buddy who works for aerodyne said he was doing some drop tests with a 120, with 300 pounds hanging under it and it all held together, and the ft/sec downward speed (in breaks) was like 18 ft. per sec. and what is considered safe is 21 ft/sec. and i was looking them over at PIA, and they look very very well built. later Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riggerrob 643 #13 April 14, 2003 What is the latest in the debate over Aerodyne was going to install Type I or Type III line attachment tapes? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rdutch 0 #14 April 14, 2003 QuoteWhat is the latest in the debate over Aerodyne was going to install Type I or Type III line attachment tapes? That was a concern of mine, but I read here somewhere, that Ian Bellis decided to go with the type I after the feedback he was getting about the type 3. A lot of canopy manufacturer's use type 3 on main canopies with no problem, but Precision used it on their recalled Raven's, and had a few incedents due to the type 3 tearing. They claim that adding another Bartack fixes the problem, Mike Truffer of skydiving magazine pull tested type 3 tapes and the tape broke on a few tests and the attatchment failed on other's. Can someone with the skydiving magazine report please post it, I dont have that issue anymore. I myself will never jump a reserve that uses type 3 tape for attatchment. Also I am not an authority on this so what I am saying is just what I have read and heard. The best system I have seen used to attatch lines is from a pdf canopy I inspected. Their design is strong as hell but add's pack volume, I think its a worthy sacrifice. Ray Small and fast what every girl dreams of! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ibellis 0 #15 April 14, 2003 Ray is correct. We are using Type I tape for the line attachment points of the Smart reserve. Blue skies, Ian Ian Bellis President Aerodyne Research Corp. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1234hutch 0 #16 April 15, 2003 Us oldtimer might resent that. We spend the years building up our businesses and industries and services and skills and then present them on aplater to new jumpers who spurn the efforts that created their tiny rig or bought the airplane. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jimbo 0 #17 May 28, 2003 ** bump ** Anyone have any real world experience with these reserves yet? Packed them? Jumped them? Opinions? Impressions? - Jim"Like" - The modern day comma Good bye, my friends. You are missed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zenister 0 #18 June 19, 2003 *bump* since i'm looking at getting one..but would love some more opinions from anyone who has, has jumped, packed one...____________________________________ Those who fail to learn from the past are simply Doomed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bwilling 0 #19 June 20, 2003 I just ordered a 220... I'll report back after I have a chance to look at it, and my rigger has had a chance to pack it... and of course I'll report back if I jump it, but I'm hoping to skip that report... "If all you ever do is all you ever did, then all you'll ever get is all you ever got." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crapflinger2000 1 #20 June 20, 2003 I have read this thread about them! __________________________________________________ What would Vic Mackey do? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riggerrob 643 #21 July 14, 2003 Just packed my first SMART reserve. It was a SMART 135. At arm's length it looked almost the same as the last year of Tempo production with spanwise reinforcement tapes across the bottom skin, Type 1 line attachment tapes, etc. The only concrete differences were the extra tapes and bar tacks on the stabilizers. I also noticed subtle differences in airfoil section and line trim. Pack volume was slightly larger than a Tempo 150. When I mentioned this pack volume disparity to my boss/the rig owner, he started a spiel about marketing managers deciding on measuring methods. His explanation left me even more confused than before. I do not have the first clue how a SMART 135 compares in surface area with a Tempo whatever. That rig also contains the first Cypres 2 I have ever seen. Externally it looks the same. There are minor differences in the cables, but they still look flimsy. The greatest improvement in the Cypres 2 is the smaller battery box with rounded corners and the manufacturer claims that you can dip it (less than 15 feet) in a swoop pond (for less than 15 minutes) and the water filter will protect the guts. They even included a spare water filter along with a special wrench. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bwilling 0 #22 July 21, 2003 I just had my new Smart 220 packed up by Lee Hardesty of Leading Edge... he hadn't seen one yet, and was interested in taking a look at it... overall, he seemed pretty impressed... he said it was a well constructed, well reinforced canopy. His biggest complaints were the way they packaged it (wrinkled the canopy too much), and the fact that the only documentation that came with it came on a CD-ROM. As for pack volume... he stuffed it in my Dolphin D4, which according to the mfg is designed to fit a 200sf reserve 'comfortably'... and he wasn't cussing me in the morning when I picked it up! He actually told me it wasn't bad getting it in there, and while it's tighter than the PD193R that was in there before it, it wasn't super tight by any stretch of the imagination... I think it fills out the container better than the smaller PD did. "If all you ever do is all you ever did, then all you'll ever get is all you ever got." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riggerrob 643 #23 July 22, 2003 One nice improvement on the SMART series of reserves is that they finger-trap and sew the bottom of the steering lines - where they attach to the steering lines - at the factory. Why the other canopy manufacturers haven't been doing this for the last 20 years is a complete mystery to me! A decade ago I tired of the silly little knots and just started finger-trapping and sewing the steering lines on all new reserves. A decade ago! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wags 0 #24 July 23, 2003 QuoteA decade ago I tired of the silly little knots and just started finger-trapping and sewing the steering lines on all new reserves. A decade ago! Is it ok for me as a senior rigger to do that. Can I actually sew on the reserve lines? And of course I don't have a bartack machine, so I would be doing a tight zig-zag. Blue Skies, Wags Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riggerrob 643 #25 July 23, 2003 QuoteQuoteA decade ago I tired of the silly little knots and just started finger-trapping and sewing the steering lines on all new reserves. A decade ago! Is it ok for me as a senior rigger to do that. Can I actually sew on the reserve lines? And of course I don't have a bartack machine, so I would be doing a tight zig-zag. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't know about the finer legal points of senior riggers finger-trapping and sewing reserve steering lines, but it was loft policy when I worked at Square One and Riggiing Innovations. I was a lowly senior rigger back then. The Master Rigger/loft manager told me to do it. I have been doing this for a decade and have heard ZERO complaints. If you "exceed your certificate" do it so neatly that no one can tell. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
