ralu 0 #1 April 15, 2003 How much do you think it worths a PARAFOIL 252 from 1984, 0 jumps? ralu what would be a woman without her dreams.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ralu 0 #2 April 15, 2003 The owner asks for 600$.... ralu what would be a woman without her dreams.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shunkka 0 #3 April 15, 2003 i dont think that u can got the documents for an 1984 chute but u can ask this ------------------------- "jump, have fun, pull" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
markbaur 0 #4 April 15, 2003 QuoteThe owner asks for 600$....That's close to the 1984 dealer price.It might be worth $600 now, if it is in new condition (no damage from sun, acid, mice, etc.), and if it can be assembled to risers without needing modifications to the brakes and toggles, and if you wanted an accuracy canopy to use when the winds are okay for accuracy jumps, and if you have a container big enough, and if you are small enough for light accuracy wing loading.Is the owner planning to jump it? If he has put 0 jumps on it in nearly 20 years, it probably has no value as a parachute to him. If you really want it, offer him half.Mark Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skybytch 273 #5 April 15, 2003 Is a Parafoil from '84 much different than a Parafoil from today? New ones are around US$1400 right now. If all the if's in Mark's post apply and the basic airfoil hasn't changed in almost 20 years, I'd think $600 isn't a bad deal. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dragon2 2 #6 April 15, 2003 Can you jump older gear in the USA? Here (Holland) every part of your rig has to be less than 25 years old. I know that for instance in Germany it's much less than that, so there this Parafoil would be worthless. ciel bleu, Saskia Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
councilman24 37 #7 April 15, 2003 I don't think they are any different. I also know of a one jump 1990 or so 9 cell Parafoil in storage since then. No takers so far, but he doesn't advertise it. IF that's what he wants, and he would otherwise by a new one, and wants to jump it till it's dead its a great deal. In the US there is no legal or mandated age limit on equipment.I'm old for my age. Terry Urban D-8631 FAA DPRE Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pchapman 279 #8 April 15, 2003 As others have said, it depends a lot on the condition of the canopy. A really old, worn, but usable canopy will be worth only a couple hundred I'd guess. I'm no parafoil expert but have learned a few things about them. Old Parafoils were built with support tapes that were much heavier than normal for canopies these days. Foils in general are quite durable I hear, but the early ones are bulkier than necessary. Old Parafoils may also have an old style reefing system, like the spider slider with the bridle going from the bridle up through heavy grommets in the canopy. This is both an ancient technique and very bulky because of reinforcements. Even if a normal slider and pilot chute were put on instead, some of the extra bulk will remain. So there's nothing badly wrong with an old 'foil, but they are a little odd compared to modern canopies or even modern Parafoils. Peter Chapman FX 88, Parafoil 282 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riggerrob 643 #9 April 15, 2003 If that 1984 Parafoil has been carefully stored, it should be as good as new, ergo you can ignore the calendar age. It helps that NAA is still manufacturing Parafoils. The new Parafoils use lighter reinforcing tapes, etc, but they still fly almost the same. If you find the old reefing system a nuisance to pack, then ask NAA to sew you a new slider. They know which models of slider are compatible with various models of Parafoil. The key question here is whether the new owner will be a serious accuracy competitor. If the local authorities give you a hard time about the calendar age, smudge the label or tear (er, gently trim) it off! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ralu 0 #10 April 17, 2003 I've started asking the guys that did accuracy in that age, and they said that PARAFOIL changed significantly it's aerodynamics at least 3 times since then ... The volume issue can be a problem. When there were used in my country, they had big Javelin containers and round reserves. So, what do you think? ralu what would be a woman without her dreams.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wingnut 0 #11 April 18, 2003 QuoteHere (Holland) every part of your rig has to be less than 25 years old. I know that for instance in Germany it's much less than that, soryy for the side note but when i jumped in germany for 2 years they told me it was 12 years on container and reserve and 20 years on a main...... i jumped my stuff and they didn't care cuz i wasn't german, my stuff was way oldr than thier limit..... ______________________________________ "i have no reader's digest version" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Swanee 0 #12 April 18, 2003 I jump a 1984 Parafoil converted to split slider although it has the grommet and reinforcing for the old reefing system on it. Make sure you've got the right size container. It's huge and heavy by today's standards---but it's absolutely solid as a rock to fly. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kirils 1 #13 April 19, 2003 I have even a earlier model and called NAA (North American Aerodynamics) http://www.naaero.com/ They sent me a manual free of charge. and chatted about the canopy and flying it. (try that from PD) Great service, great company! Call them, you will be pleased!"Slow down! You are too young to be moving that fast!" Old Man Crawfish Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
