psuCory 0 #1 February 23, 2005 Ok here's the deal. I've got some footage. And it's pretty...no it isn't pretty, it's harsh. It's of myself in a bad situation, but I lived. Additionally there is outside vid of the 'situation'. As most vid guys, cash is always an issue, and I think this might just be a "quick cash" avenue. So the questions start: 1) I know it makes our sport look bad by releasing it to "public" eyes... how do you come to a monetary figure for that? It is a survival story, but I can already see 'their' announcers spinning the details. 2) Model release isn't an issue for my view.. as I'm the model. But there is an outside view, which is quite extraordinary. The vid guy that got the outside view deserves to be paid (if the original intent - get paid - is to be followed) at a fair rate. Do you calculate that at a % of total vid release cost? 3) to start the video, either of them, properly we have to show a tandem happening. This to me means that we have to get a model release from the TM and the student. Is this a correct assumption? And would a $ figure that covers the tandem + next tandem be enough for the rider? For the TM, I don't even know how to calc a $ amt. Is there a standard equasion for active participants in for-pay videos? 4) What programs are still marketing the "near snuff film" video? If I can sell this to more than 1 network, obviously the return on "selling out" goes up. Answers and discussion (here and PM) are welcomed. ... yea I'm selling out. But I'll be back,. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lewmonst 0 #2 February 23, 2005 Quote1) I know it makes our sport look bad by releasing it to "public" eyes... You just said it all. So don't sell it. Especially since it involves a tandem. Dropzones don't advertise much, but if you show something bad involving a tandem on television!, dropzones will lose potential tandem customers. If you're that desperate for money, find something else. Just my opinion. peace lewhttp://www.exitshot.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StevePhelps 0 #3 February 23, 2005 I second Karen's opinion. Find another way to make a buck. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davelepka 4 #4 February 23, 2005 You were shooting a tandem video? You already got paid. Need more money? Pack your shit up and do another tandem video. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mr2mk1g 10 #5 February 23, 2005 If you were filming a tandem video for your DZ you might find you don't actually own the intellectual property rights to the video in the first place. It all depends on how your DZ runs its video pool. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ltdiver 3 #6 February 23, 2005 Lew, Thanks for being up early this morning (late last night) to catch this post. I also second Karen's answer. ltdiver Don't tell me the sky's the limit when there are footprints on the moon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jdhill 0 #7 February 23, 2005 Its probably best to just keep it within the community... If you are that hard up for cash, that you could jepordize future tandem business for the DZ, and yourself (fewer tandems = fewer tandem videos), you should look at a less expensive sport. You could even get bumped from the rotation at some DZs for it. There are a few near death or fatality videos from these parts that could have been sold for a chunk money that have not been... J PS... Glad your OKAll that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. - Edmund Burke Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freakydiver 0 #8 February 23, 2005 Don't be a "feeder". And once you sell out, yer out. -- (N.DG) "If all else fails – at least try and look under control." -- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
psuCory 0 #9 February 23, 2005 Fair enough... like I said it's just mental musings at this point. My thoughts are pretty much in line with what has been posted, in that it probably isn't worth it at any price. At least I have some great footage for the team's end of year video . PPS... Me too Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndyMan 7 #10 February 23, 2005 QuoteI have some great footage for the team's end of year video. Don't forget to post a version here! _Am__ You put the fun in "funnel" - craichead. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #11 February 23, 2005 Don't post it here or online unless you want it to end up all over the net on all sorts of sites. Or if you do make sure you watermark the shit out of it....Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
psuCory 0 #12 February 23, 2005 Thus my resistance to putting on sdmovies... It was going to be all out release (not really an option though) or private viewing only. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amanduh 0 #13 February 24, 2005 I'm shocked. Instead of looking at the video as a money bank, Cory..why not look at it as a learning experience? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jose 0 #14 February 24, 2005 QuoteThus my resistance to putting on sdmovies... It was going to be all out release (not really an option though) or private viewing only. SDmovies is private viewing only. You have to have an account, not that its really private, but clips cannot be linked to as most are on the net. Just put it up on the malfunctions area and be content with possibly arming another with a piece of info they might not have thought of before to get themselves out of a heap of shit. Just last week, I viewed a double mal that encompassed the dude yankin the shit out of his reserve risers to get his bag locked reserve out....all on his back. It worked....hes fine....and holy shit...was it exciting video. More importantly, it armed me with another "Hail Mary" possibility, if and when that time comes to bear. Hopefully no time soon. If at all..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pilotdave 0 #15 February 24, 2005 I actually spent the last couple nights trying to watermark a few of the videos that have been stolen from my site and posted elsewhere to prevent it from happening again. I also actively do request that videos that I know were taken from my site are removed from other sites. big-boys.com or whatever it is seems to not like that idea very much. For the most part, videos with happy endings aren't particularly exciting to the public. Dave Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites