Niklasp 0 #1 March 8, 2005 So who´s got a sony DCR-PC1000 and is it any good for skydiving? Does it have the "3-chip problem"? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eblaauw 0 #2 March 8, 2005 I tried it for 3 or 4 jumps with different settings. But on every jump the 3 ccd problem was still there. A very nice camera, but not for skydiving so far. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jdhill 0 #3 March 8, 2005 Quote"3-chip problem" What is the "3-chip problem"? I have a VX 1000 and its only problem is its size... I have a TRV-900 and it has a floating iris problem that only manifests itself when shooting on or below level. JAll that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. - Edmund Burke Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pope 0 #4 March 9, 2005 QuoteQuote"3-chip problem" yeah--second this--What's the 3CCD prob? pope Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites AndyMan 7 #5 March 9, 2005 I think he's refering to the floating iris, which was common (and still is, I think....) on the low-end 3CCD devices, but not on the more expensive vx series. _Am__ You put the fun in "funnel" - craichead. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Niklasp 0 #6 March 9, 2005 yep. thats what I ment. thanks Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jimmytavino 16 #7 March 9, 2005 QuoteQuote"3-chip problem" What is the "3-chip problem"? I have a VX 1000 and its only problem is its size... I have a TRV-900 and it has a floating iris problem that only manifests itself when shooting on or below level. J I'll second that......The VX-1000 works ok...Never owned a VX 2000 or VX 2001.. but I'd bet they would be ok as well. I think the 3 chip problem first came to light when the trv 900 was released.. It's smaller than the vx... the rough size and shape of the early TRV models.... I thought,,, HEY this smaller camcorder could be the "ticket'..... but I waited before buying one.... Glad i did.. cause "field reports" from people using the 900 were NOT good...... ... Even so... despite it's 'size' the VX 3 chips.. DO have a great carrying handle,,, which allows you to grab and carry a rather heavy helmet setup.... safely and easily....plus the video "ain't bad" LOVE people ...USE things ...... NOT ....... LOVE things ... USE people o[:-) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites SudsyFist 0 #8 March 16, 2005 Quote I tried it for 3 or 4 jumps with different settings. But on every jump the 3 ccd problem was still there. A very nice camera, but not for skydiving so far. Bummer. Has anyone else tried jumping the new PC1000 (as opposed to the HC1000) yet? It's retailing now, listing at $1,299 at Sony Style, but online merchants have it going for $1049 and up (Pricegrabber.com, Shopping.com, mySimon, eBay, etc.). I'm sure I'm not alone in wanting to hear more feedback on this unit from a skydiver perspective. If it's air-worthy, then I'll be sure to put up another comparison. The possibility of a three chip camcorder in a PC form factor had me pretty excited, but I'm kinda feeling like I've been talking to a "hot" chick all night and the house lights just came on. Too bad I don't drink. Steve Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Cookie 0 #9 March 16, 2005 Hey Steve, I'm also waiting to here about some feedback on them. They are about 2 weeks away from being available in Australia. I think I'm going to just buy one and do some jumps with it. Cookie Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites SudsyFist 0 #10 March 21, 2005 Thanks, Cookie -- you rock! I may beat you to it, however; my trigger finger's a-twitchin'. Until then, if anyone else has further input, then please do let us know. Steve Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites base801 0 #11 March 24, 2005 brought one yesterday £739 very light compared to the pc350 feels very plastic. have already taken it apart to remove the hand strap 5 screws to get to it and 2 holding it in cant seem to get the door over the lanc port off using my usual trick of using a pin to depress the locking spur on the plastic tab so it slides out but dont want to open the whole body up just yet and dont want to cut it off either just incase its no good for jumping and i need to ebay it. put the red eye on it and started building the mount. will try to get it jumpable b4 the end of the weekend. jumping without camera is just ot the same Ill let you know if there are any issues once i have jumped it. Daedalus Base 801 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites SudsyFist 0 #12 March 24, 2005 Will look forward to your feedback, Daedalus. Thanks! I did a hasty side-by-side comparison of the PC350 and the PC1000 at Fry's a couple of days ago. Three things really stood out: Weight/Form Factor: The PC1000's slimmer and trimmer Color: OMFG, the PC1000's color is gorgeous, putting the PC350 to shame Night Shot: MIA on the PC1000. No more spent-the-night-in-Paris videos...I'll work on putting together a more substantial comparison as soon as Sony gets on the ball and publishes the PC1000's manual and spec sheet online. Steve Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites pepe 0 #13 March 24, 2005 Looks like this camera is a bottom feeder... bummer, was hoping it was like the PC100. The 24 frame per second "Cinematic" mode looks interesting on this as well. What is the size of this camera like compared to the PC10x series? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Cookie 0 #14 March 28, 2005 Hey Base 801, Did the PC1000 shine on the weekend or are you going to get send it back!!!! Cookie Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites base801 0 #15 March 29, 2005 what with jumping, weather, meeting women, staying in bed long in to the day with a hangover i am afraid that i failed to finish the mount so didnt jump the camera will let everyone know how it went when i have. base 801 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites base801 0 #16 April 5, 2005 managed to jump the camera once this weekend. looks great on the camera screen in wide mode but need a wide screen tv to realy see how good it is. looks ok on normal screen. need to do more jumps to see how it realy behaves has the camera side mounted on a renegade in a home made mount with a .3 red eye lens tip from the wise if building a mount wrap the camera in clingfilm. i tested to see if it would stick to my plastic mounting compound and it didnt but when doing it for real i managed stick it firm and loose some parts of the body but hey it still works and its not a jump camera without gaffa tape base801 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Cookie 0 #17 April 5, 2005 Thanks Base801, I have mine coming, I should have it by friday so we can go test jumping on the weekend. Silly question here, just by looking at the image quality on a normal TV can you tell that it's a 3ccd or higher image camera. Keep you all in touch Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites base801 0 #18 April 5, 2005 im afraid i cannot tell. on the qualityof the image if you are getting one at the weeknd i assume the boxes will be available monday base801 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Cookie 0 #19 April 6, 2005 LOL Yeah check out our we site for them Monday morning. Cookie Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Cookie 0 #20 April 19, 2005 The PC1000 rocks I built a mount for it and handed the helmet and camera to a mate who is running the camera pool at the Skysisters boogie. He has flown it in every oreintation and the picture quality is great. The day tape production team have taken a few picture grabs and compared them to all the other cameras being used ie. PC9 through to PC350 and cleary the image quality is better. A tip is to run the 4:3 format if your not viewing the image on wide screen. My personel rating Looks 8/10 we got a black one with chrome bits Features 8/10 Image quality vs camera size and weight 10/10 Cookie www.cookiecomposites.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites freethefly 6 #21 April 19, 2005 There is alot of information on this camera at camcorderinfo.com. Some pro and con views on CMOS technology over CCD."...And once you're gone, you can't come back When you're out of the blue and into the black." Neil Young Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jallen 1 #22 April 20, 2005 So, all things considered, what is the general consenus on the PC-1000 vs the PC-350. What is the best camera to buy from a skydiving perspective? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Buried 0 #23 May 16, 2005 bump ATM the overall experience is a good one for the PC-1000. Is this still true? Where is my fizzy-lifting drink? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites chris 0 #24 May 17, 2005 I've heard nothing but problems regarding the PC-350 and changes in temperature/humidity during freefall such as the camera shutting off. A friend of mine has put a dozen plus jumps on his PC-1000 including putting it through a big change in temperature. No problems, he loves the camera One more thing, I saw some of his footage he shot of a tandem. I saw no issues with the picture except for improved color of course!- Chris Norton Vivid Views: Thousands of skydiving pictures online Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites chris 0 #25 May 17, 2005 Okay, what is a "floating iris" problem??? Saw some other posts elsewhere. 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AndyMan 7 #5 March 9, 2005 I think he's refering to the floating iris, which was common (and still is, I think....) on the low-end 3CCD devices, but not on the more expensive vx series. _Am__ You put the fun in "funnel" - craichead. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Niklasp 0 #6 March 9, 2005 yep. thats what I ment. thanks Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jimmytavino 16 #7 March 9, 2005 QuoteQuote"3-chip problem" What is the "3-chip problem"? I have a VX 1000 and its only problem is its size... I have a TRV-900 and it has a floating iris problem that only manifests itself when shooting on or below level. J I'll second that......The VX-1000 works ok...Never owned a VX 2000 or VX 2001.. but I'd bet they would be ok as well. I think the 3 chip problem first came to light when the trv 900 was released.. It's smaller than the vx... the rough size and shape of the early TRV models.... I thought,,, HEY this smaller camcorder could be the "ticket'..... but I waited before buying one.... Glad i did.. cause "field reports" from people using the 900 were NOT good...... ... Even so... despite it's 'size' the VX 3 chips.. DO have a great carrying handle,,, which allows you to grab and carry a rather heavy helmet setup.... safely and easily....plus the video "ain't bad" LOVE people ...USE things ...... NOT ....... LOVE things ... USE people o[:-) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SudsyFist 0 #8 March 16, 2005 Quote I tried it for 3 or 4 jumps with different settings. But on every jump the 3 ccd problem was still there. A very nice camera, but not for skydiving so far. Bummer. Has anyone else tried jumping the new PC1000 (as opposed to the HC1000) yet? It's retailing now, listing at $1,299 at Sony Style, but online merchants have it going for $1049 and up (Pricegrabber.com, Shopping.com, mySimon, eBay, etc.). I'm sure I'm not alone in wanting to hear more feedback on this unit from a skydiver perspective. If it's air-worthy, then I'll be sure to put up another comparison. The possibility of a three chip camcorder in a PC form factor had me pretty excited, but I'm kinda feeling like I've been talking to a "hot" chick all night and the house lights just came on. Too bad I don't drink. Steve Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cookie 0 #9 March 16, 2005 Hey Steve, I'm also waiting to here about some feedback on them. They are about 2 weeks away from being available in Australia. I think I'm going to just buy one and do some jumps with it. Cookie Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SudsyFist 0 #10 March 21, 2005 Thanks, Cookie -- you rock! I may beat you to it, however; my trigger finger's a-twitchin'. Until then, if anyone else has further input, then please do let us know. Steve Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
base801 0 #11 March 24, 2005 brought one yesterday £739 very light compared to the pc350 feels very plastic. have already taken it apart to remove the hand strap 5 screws to get to it and 2 holding it in cant seem to get the door over the lanc port off using my usual trick of using a pin to depress the locking spur on the plastic tab so it slides out but dont want to open the whole body up just yet and dont want to cut it off either just incase its no good for jumping and i need to ebay it. put the red eye on it and started building the mount. will try to get it jumpable b4 the end of the weekend. jumping without camera is just ot the same Ill let you know if there are any issues once i have jumped it. Daedalus Base 801 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SudsyFist 0 #12 March 24, 2005 Will look forward to your feedback, Daedalus. Thanks! I did a hasty side-by-side comparison of the PC350 and the PC1000 at Fry's a couple of days ago. Three things really stood out: Weight/Form Factor: The PC1000's slimmer and trimmer Color: OMFG, the PC1000's color is gorgeous, putting the PC350 to shame Night Shot: MIA on the PC1000. No more spent-the-night-in-Paris videos...I'll work on putting together a more substantial comparison as soon as Sony gets on the ball and publishes the PC1000's manual and spec sheet online. Steve Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pepe 0 #13 March 24, 2005 Looks like this camera is a bottom feeder... bummer, was hoping it was like the PC100. The 24 frame per second "Cinematic" mode looks interesting on this as well. What is the size of this camera like compared to the PC10x series? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cookie 0 #14 March 28, 2005 Hey Base 801, Did the PC1000 shine on the weekend or are you going to get send it back!!!! Cookie Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites base801 0 #15 March 29, 2005 what with jumping, weather, meeting women, staying in bed long in to the day with a hangover i am afraid that i failed to finish the mount so didnt jump the camera will let everyone know how it went when i have. base 801 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites base801 0 #16 April 5, 2005 managed to jump the camera once this weekend. looks great on the camera screen in wide mode but need a wide screen tv to realy see how good it is. looks ok on normal screen. need to do more jumps to see how it realy behaves has the camera side mounted on a renegade in a home made mount with a .3 red eye lens tip from the wise if building a mount wrap the camera in clingfilm. i tested to see if it would stick to my plastic mounting compound and it didnt but when doing it for real i managed stick it firm and loose some parts of the body but hey it still works and its not a jump camera without gaffa tape base801 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Cookie 0 #17 April 5, 2005 Thanks Base801, I have mine coming, I should have it by friday so we can go test jumping on the weekend. Silly question here, just by looking at the image quality on a normal TV can you tell that it's a 3ccd or higher image camera. Keep you all in touch Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites base801 0 #18 April 5, 2005 im afraid i cannot tell. on the qualityof the image if you are getting one at the weeknd i assume the boxes will be available monday base801 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Cookie 0 #19 April 6, 2005 LOL Yeah check out our we site for them Monday morning. Cookie Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Cookie 0 #20 April 19, 2005 The PC1000 rocks I built a mount for it and handed the helmet and camera to a mate who is running the camera pool at the Skysisters boogie. He has flown it in every oreintation and the picture quality is great. The day tape production team have taken a few picture grabs and compared them to all the other cameras being used ie. PC9 through to PC350 and cleary the image quality is better. A tip is to run the 4:3 format if your not viewing the image on wide screen. My personel rating Looks 8/10 we got a black one with chrome bits Features 8/10 Image quality vs camera size and weight 10/10 Cookie www.cookiecomposites.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites freethefly 6 #21 April 19, 2005 There is alot of information on this camera at camcorderinfo.com. Some pro and con views on CMOS technology over CCD."...And once you're gone, you can't come back When you're out of the blue and into the black." Neil Young Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jallen 1 #22 April 20, 2005 So, all things considered, what is the general consenus on the PC-1000 vs the PC-350. What is the best camera to buy from a skydiving perspective? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Buried 0 #23 May 16, 2005 bump ATM the overall experience is a good one for the PC-1000. Is this still true? Where is my fizzy-lifting drink? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites chris 0 #24 May 17, 2005 I've heard nothing but problems regarding the PC-350 and changes in temperature/humidity during freefall such as the camera shutting off. A friend of mine has put a dozen plus jumps on his PC-1000 including putting it through a big change in temperature. No problems, he loves the camera One more thing, I saw some of his footage he shot of a tandem. I saw no issues with the picture except for improved color of course!- Chris Norton Vivid Views: Thousands of skydiving pictures online Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites chris 0 #25 May 17, 2005 Okay, what is a "floating iris" problem??? Saw some other posts elsewhere. The problem looks like old 8mm tape flutter if I understand what I read correctly- Chris Norton Vivid Views: Thousands of skydiving pictures online Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 Next Page 1 of 2 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
base801 0 #15 March 29, 2005 what with jumping, weather, meeting women, staying in bed long in to the day with a hangover i am afraid that i failed to finish the mount so didnt jump the camera will let everyone know how it went when i have. base 801 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
base801 0 #16 April 5, 2005 managed to jump the camera once this weekend. looks great on the camera screen in wide mode but need a wide screen tv to realy see how good it is. looks ok on normal screen. need to do more jumps to see how it realy behaves has the camera side mounted on a renegade in a home made mount with a .3 red eye lens tip from the wise if building a mount wrap the camera in clingfilm. i tested to see if it would stick to my plastic mounting compound and it didnt but when doing it for real i managed stick it firm and loose some parts of the body but hey it still works and its not a jump camera without gaffa tape base801 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cookie 0 #17 April 5, 2005 Thanks Base801, I have mine coming, I should have it by friday so we can go test jumping on the weekend. Silly question here, just by looking at the image quality on a normal TV can you tell that it's a 3ccd or higher image camera. Keep you all in touch Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
base801 0 #18 April 5, 2005 im afraid i cannot tell. on the qualityof the image if you are getting one at the weeknd i assume the boxes will be available monday base801 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cookie 0 #19 April 6, 2005 LOL Yeah check out our we site for them Monday morning. Cookie Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cookie 0 #20 April 19, 2005 The PC1000 rocks I built a mount for it and handed the helmet and camera to a mate who is running the camera pool at the Skysisters boogie. He has flown it in every oreintation and the picture quality is great. The day tape production team have taken a few picture grabs and compared them to all the other cameras being used ie. PC9 through to PC350 and cleary the image quality is better. A tip is to run the 4:3 format if your not viewing the image on wide screen. My personel rating Looks 8/10 we got a black one with chrome bits Features 8/10 Image quality vs camera size and weight 10/10 Cookie www.cookiecomposites.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freethefly 6 #21 April 19, 2005 There is alot of information on this camera at camcorderinfo.com. Some pro and con views on CMOS technology over CCD."...And once you're gone, you can't come back When you're out of the blue and into the black." Neil Young Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jallen 1 #22 April 20, 2005 So, all things considered, what is the general consenus on the PC-1000 vs the PC-350. What is the best camera to buy from a skydiving perspective? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Buried 0 #23 May 16, 2005 bump ATM the overall experience is a good one for the PC-1000. Is this still true? Where is my fizzy-lifting drink? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chris 0 #24 May 17, 2005 I've heard nothing but problems regarding the PC-350 and changes in temperature/humidity during freefall such as the camera shutting off. A friend of mine has put a dozen plus jumps on his PC-1000 including putting it through a big change in temperature. No problems, he loves the camera One more thing, I saw some of his footage he shot of a tandem. I saw no issues with the picture except for improved color of course!- Chris Norton Vivid Views: Thousands of skydiving pictures online Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chris 0 #25 May 17, 2005 Okay, what is a "floating iris" problem??? Saw some other posts elsewhere. The problem looks like old 8mm tape flutter if I understand what I read correctly- Chris Norton Vivid Views: Thousands of skydiving pictures online Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites