PhreeZone 20 #26 May 26, 2005 Oh that just plain sucks! Might as well be a rear floater.Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deuce 1 #27 May 26, 2005 Um. The KingAir has no camera step at all. Nada. Good flying and skill allows for exit shots just as good as from an Otter (the best), but it's harder. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndyMan 7 #28 May 27, 2005 I can see a rear float camera working for tandems out a king air... but 4-way? _Am__ You put the fun in "funnel" - craichead. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhys 0 #29 May 30, 2005 QuoteThe PAC is not a camera-friendly aircraft. *** i jump camera at a busy tandem factory here in new zealand. we have a cresco750, these are the same as a 750xl but have more relative power. the fuselage is smaller and lower. however the (pac factory made)step is like a veranda and the handle above the door is huge as it is also the rail for the automatic push button door(also made supplied and fitted by pac) along with the sound system. you do not have to kneel before exit just sit on you bum as you do all the way to altitude. pac make very good aircraft and very good skydive accesories for them. to say that they are not camera friendly is silly. maybe the person who bought your one is just cheap. these planes were 'made for skydiving' and come equiped to do so unless you want just a basic model(are a cheap ass)"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Shyandinnocent 0 #30 May 30, 2005 QuoteThe Cresco and XL750 are different aircraft, though both made by PAC. Cresco = 10 people XL750 = 15-17 people. Yes, I know. Our pilot recons the problem is the same w both aircraft, though. You can still float a bunch of people, just don't take too damn long... Send us your thoughts, it is still a "relatively" new aircraft for jumping, so us that use it, would like to know of any problems others experience... It's never too late for a low turn! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Shyandinnocent 0 #31 May 30, 2005 pac make very good aircraft and very good skydive accesories for them. to say that they are not camera friendly is silly. maybe the person who bought your one is just cheap. these planes were 'made for skydiving' and come equiped to do so unless you want just a basic model(are a cheap ass) Hear hear No better jumpship around!!! It's never too late for a low turn! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shyandinnocent 0 #30 May 30, 2005 QuoteThe Cresco and XL750 are different aircraft, though both made by PAC. Cresco = 10 people XL750 = 15-17 people. Yes, I know. Our pilot recons the problem is the same w both aircraft, though. You can still float a bunch of people, just don't take too damn long... Send us your thoughts, it is still a "relatively" new aircraft for jumping, so us that use it, would like to know of any problems others experience... It's never too late for a low turn! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shyandinnocent 0 #31 May 30, 2005 pac make very good aircraft and very good skydive accesories for them. to say that they are not camera friendly is silly. maybe the person who bought your one is just cheap. these planes were 'made for skydiving' and come equiped to do so unless you want just a basic model(are a cheap ass) Hear hear No better jumpship around!!! It's never too late for a low turn! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mark135 0 #32 May 30, 2005 QuoteHear hear No better jumpship around!!! I can think of a few. In my vast pac experiance (1 jump) I found it to be 1 small step above a king air._______________ "It seemed like a good idea at the time" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zoter 0 #33 May 31, 2005 Thanks guys...I jumped it this weekend ( at Cark, UK) and I liked it alot......very fast run in speed ! but a nice high step as well as a huge grab rail......didnt have any problems at all.....thanks to all for your advice/pictures Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deuce 1 #34 June 1, 2005 Quote I can see a rear float camera working for tandems out a king air... but 4-way? _Am Oh, yeah, Andy. Big time. Three outside and the camera flier with one of the 4-way team inside. It's really hard. It's what makes KingAir camera fliers something special. Like FoxForceFour kinda special! JotaPeh! Hoo hah-hah! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freefallcrab 0 #35 June 1, 2005 When I jumped one at Netheravon in the UK last summer I was conscious that for a 40way exit with me as far back as possible and standing tall to get the best exit shot the tailplane seemed really low and really close. Previous posters with more experience than me havent highlighted it as an issue so I guess it isnt a problem. Use your wings Johnny.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Swede 0 #36 June 5, 2005 I have done 10ish camera exits from the PAC750 XL (in Gothenburg, Sweden). Tandem, speedstar and 4-way exits. The rear camera step is small but once you find it i´s no problem. I normally do leading exits. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites