Vectracide 0 #1 October 8, 2005 Ok, so the title got your attention. This is a post to find out if anyone out there is interested in a shoe cam, made to the same specifications as Bonehead's ShuVue, but at a lesser price. I have contacts in the carbon fibre industry, and the parts are easy to purchase. I will be assembling one here in the near future and testing it. I will possibly be adding some safety features to is as well. Like a pilot chute that deploys when cut-away so your camera doesn't go splat. Show of hands to who MIGHT be interested. ------------------------------ Controlled and Deliberate..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #2 October 8, 2005 Carefully consider the pilot chute, what happens if the material sneeks out in freefall and deploys? Thats not a good situation to be in at all. And with enough material to slow an object of that size is at least a 16 (20 is better) PC based on my experience in rockets, Thats a lot of material to be stuffing in it. That said depending on how well it would work with my wingsuit I might be interested.Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vectracide 0 #3 October 9, 2005 Hey Eric. Yeah, the safety margin will have to be covered carefully with the PC. What I am thinking is that the PC will be in the very front of the shoe cup itself. There will be a lip all the way around the inside of the cup that a cover will rest against. The PC will be inside of this void. There are a couple of ways that you could effect the deployment of the PC. The cut-away cable will be like your riser cutaway system, with 2 cables, one chops the shoes heel straps and one releases the cup from inside the shoe. After it leaves, the idea is that the turbulence and air will naturally suck out the PC that will be mounted thru the toe of the carbon fibre shoe. Second design could be that the cutaway cable will release the shoe with only one cable. There would be a second cable that is velcroed around the ankle with the cord traveling thru a loop onthe side of the shoe that will retain the inner PC cover. When the shoe leaves, the cable on your ankle stays and clears the loop, releasing the inner PC cover. I really dont think it will be neccesary to make the PC sprung, as the void is close enough to the open air to effect the release of it. With the inner PC cover, it would be impossible to have the PC come out unless it was chopped. Definitely many different ways to make this work. Any other brain storms would be appreciated. If we really can make this work thru many peoples input, it could be the first DZ.Com inspired device to hit the market. ------------------------------ Controlled and Deliberate..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MB38 0 #4 October 9, 2005 QuoteCarefully consider the pilot chute, what happens if the material sneeks out in freefall and deploys? Thats not a good situation to be in at all. And with enough material to slow an object of that size is at least a 16 (20 is better) PC based on my experience in rockets, Thats a lot of material to be stuffing in it. If the PC bridle had something similar to a Collins' lanyard, I think it might work out. That is, if the PC accidentally deploys, it takes the cutaway cable with it... and thus the camera.I really don't know what I'm talking about. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
velocityphoto 0 #5 October 9, 2005 OK lets think about this for a min ! A camera worth maybe 800.00 or a grand depending on how fancy, you may not find it after it lands in a wooded area or lake someones roof ,who knows ? Is it really worth having a parachute on it and risking your life for? If it had a problem and i cut it away to save my life ,i figure i can replace it pretty simple and tell the story of it .......... My 2 cents A friend will bail you out of jail , a REAL friend will be sitting next to you in the cell slapping your hand saying "DUDE THAT WAS AWSUM " ................ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vectracide 0 #6 October 9, 2005 I understand your view, but there are other considerations that I believe that we as skydivers need to think about when releasing heavy objects from the sky. A shoe cam with any camera on it has the energy to kill someone very easily. It most certainly will damage property. Does this mean that I would hesitate to get rid of it if I absolutely had to? Of course not. I do believe that some kind of measure should be taken to try to prevent injury or death to others if we decide to use equipment that is designed to be cut-away in case of emergencies. The design of the shoe cam isn't such that you have to use a PC. It is an option that is there if one so decides. I look at is as a personal choice, such as AAD's, RSL's are personal choices. They are there for safety reasons, but unfortunately have shown to be the cause of several deaths as well. There is always a cost/benefit factor for us in this sport. ------------------------------ Controlled and Deliberate..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vectracide 0 #7 October 13, 2005 QuoteIf the PC bridle had something similar to a Collins' lanyard, I think it might work out. That is, if the PC accidentally deploys, it takes the cutaway cable with it... and thus the camera. That is a very good idea. I think I will look futher into that solution. You could be in for a deep discount. ------------------------------ Controlled and Deliberate..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riggerrob 643 #8 October 17, 2005 Look at this from another angle .... a brightly-colored pilot chute would make it much easier to find a discarded shoe-cam in tall grass. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MB38 0 #9 October 17, 2005 QuoteQuoteIf the PC bridle had something similar to a Collins' lanyard, I think it might work out. That is, if the PC accidentally deploys, it takes the cutaway cable with it... and thus the camera. That is a very good idea. I think I will look futher into that solution. You could be in for a deep discount. Whoohoo!I really don't know what I'm talking about. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
