PalleRai 0 #1 October 31, 2005 Hi Using FT.pro on freefly or another helmet system? What is best? please let me know. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #2 October 31, 2005 What are you wanting to shoot? just video? save the $ and get a side mount and jump the rest. Stills, video and flash? you'll need a FTP. No issues freeflying in one.Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PalleRai 0 #3 October 31, 2005 Shoot video and Stills,jumping FT on tandem,but starting to jump freefly now,and did not want to buy a new Helmet. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vdschoor 0 #4 October 31, 2005 QuoteShoot video and Stills,jumping FT on tandem,but starting to jump freefly now,and did not want to buy a new Helmet. Don't buy a new helmet The Flat Top Pro is the most comfortable helmet around, and there is no reason why you can't freefly with it.. I do it all the time, and many many other videographers do the same. Iwan Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndyMan 7 #5 October 31, 2005 I freefly with my FTP. It works. All the advantages of the FTP - all that huge real estate for mounting stuff. Why wouldn't you? Some people complain about freeflying with big helmets... but seriously, who's in control here? Either you can fly on your head or you can't. If you can, even a big and heavy helmet doesn't change anything _Am__ You put the fun in "funnel" - craichead. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NSEMN8R 0 #6 November 1, 2005 Quote The Flat Top Pro is the most comfortable helmet around Mine isn't. Mine sucks. It fits fine on the ground, but at altitude the liner swells up and it squeezes my head so tight that I can hear my pulse beating in my ears. I hate it. A waste of $800 if you ask me. I wish I kept my protec. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vdschoor 0 #7 November 1, 2005 QuoteQuote The Flat Top Pro is the most comfortable helmet around Mine isn't. Mine sucks. It fits fine on the ground, but at altitude the liner swells up and it squeezes my head so tight that I can hear my pulse beating in my ears. I hate it. A waste of $800 if you ask me. I wish I kept my protec. how many jumps do you have on it? I found the helmet needs to be "broken in" and that takes a while, at least thats what I experienced with it. I never baked the liner though.. I dont know if that makes a difference Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vectracide 0 #8 November 1, 2005 Quote It fits fine on the ground, but at altitude the liner swells up and it squeezes my head so tight that I can hear my pulse beating in my ears. Maybe it's your swelling head... ------------------------------ Controlled and Deliberate..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NSEMN8R 0 #9 November 1, 2005 I called bonehead and they told me the same thing. They said it would take a few jumps to break in. I've put almost a hundred on it so far and it hasn't changed at all. I baked the liner when I first got it. I might try it again to see if it helps. Vectracide-- It could be. I'm well known around here for my "swelling head" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Canuck 0 #10 November 1, 2005 I never found my FTP very comfortable either - stable as hell - but not super comfy. I don't know exactly how many jumps I put on it, several hundred though, and it never really changed. I think it depends on your head shape. As to the original question - ever see pictures of people like Norman Kent flying HD with a 16mm film camera strapped up top? Canuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
piisfish 140 #11 November 1, 2005 QuoteEither you can fly on your head or you can't. If you can, even a big and heavy helmet doesn't change anything In my case, would a heavy helmet help me stay head down scissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndyMan 7 #12 November 1, 2005 Quote I never baked the liner though.. I dont know if that makes a difference I think that's key. I baked my liner and didn't like the results. The next time I was in California I stopped by Bonehead and had them replace the liners. I didn't bake them the second time around and have been much happier. _Am__ You put the fun in "funnel" - craichead. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The111 1 #13 November 1, 2005 Hmm, that's really interesting. I got an Optik Illusion several weeks ago, and baked the liners right away (though I did try it on before that). I THINK it fits slightly better now (after baking). At any rate, I don't seem to have any problems with the fit, in general. Hey, could you just reheat the foam and not apply pressure to it while cooling, to cause it to return to original shape? www.WingsuitPhotos.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndyMan 7 #14 November 1, 2005 QuoteHey, could you just reheat the foam and not apply pressure to it while cooling, to cause it to return to original shape When you're heating the foam you're not really molding it, instead you're allowing it to compress. Think of allt he tiny air bubbles inside foam, and think of what happens when you heat it and compress it - much of the air escapes. It's not possible to put the air back in. _Am__ You put the fun in "funnel" - craichead. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NSEMN8R 0 #15 November 1, 2005 Quote When you're heating the foam you're not really molding it, instead you're allowing it to compress. Think of allt he tiny air bubbles inside foam, and think of what happens when you heat it and compress it - much of the air escapes. It's not possible to put the air back in. _Am Isn't it the air bubbles in the foam that cause the liner to swell up at altitude? It seems like baking it and getting the air bubbles out would stop that from happening so much and not baking them would make it worse. Am I wrong? I think I might just let it ride up and down in the plane by itself for a couple weekends. Think that will help at all? If it fit at altitude the same as it does on the ground, it would be an awesome helmet. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndyMan 7 #16 November 1, 2005 Quote Isn't it the air bubbles in the foam that cause the liner to swell up at altitude? It seems like baking it and getting the air bubbles out would stop that from happening so much and not baking them would make it worse. Am I wrong? I dunno. I guess. I've just found that mine is more comfortable when the foam is intact. Possibly that's because if you allow the foam to compress then instead of feeling foam against you're head, you're feeling hard composite plastic and carbon fiber. It certainly is true that my new liners did soften up a bit over time. Maybe that's your solution, just get used to it. Quote If it fit at altitude the same as it does on the ground, it would be an awesome helmet. It is an awesome helmet, partly because it fits tightly. We can not escape the basic concept of lower air pressure at altitudes. I simply do not see how you can have a helmet that fits tightly while being soft and scushy on jumprun while still being stable come pull-time. If a helmet is soft and scushy at jumprun it'll be loose and falling off come pull-time. The FTP is a great photographers helmet because it's designed to fit tight. I supose it is not for everybody. _Am__ You put the fun in "funnel" - craichead. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
