GeorgeKat 0 #1 January 26, 2006 Has anyone tried this lens? http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=productlist&A=details&Q=&sku=363807&is=REG&addedTroughType=search It looks like an ideal range for tandem to 4-way and it's a similar weight and price to the Sigma fixed 15mm which is what I would have bought for my 20D if I hadn't found this. Any views before I part with my hard earned cash? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Miami 0 #2 January 26, 2006 I would actually go with the Canon 10-22mm lens...much better glass, lower f stop, roughly the same size and weight, little better width and zoom, and USM for faster focusing. Highly worth the extra $140 (and if you dig around a little you can find the Canon lens for $600) in my opinion. Hope this helps...Miami Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #3 January 26, 2006 Watch the lenses you get, if some peoples predictions of full frame sensors eventually making to the consumer line of cameras becomes fact in a few years compact digital lenses like this one will not work with them. Already this lens will not work on the 5D and 1D MarkII if I remember correctly. The EF-S mount might only be around for a brief while if full frame sensors hit the $1000 or less price mark in the near future.Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davelepka 4 #4 January 26, 2006 Ok, hang on a second here. Is there a reason that you couldn't take a 10-22 and put it on a full frame sensor camera, and actaully get '10-22'? Is there a difference in the ultra wide lenses that makes them only applicable as semi-wide lenses for small sensor cameras? Semi related, why would they change lens mounts? Wouldn't they just go back to selling lenses that are a bit longer than the current offerings? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Miami 0 #5 January 26, 2006 QuoteOk, hang on a second here. Is there a reason that you couldn't take a 10-22 and put it on a full frame sensor camera, and actaully get '10-22'? In this case, no, you can't. The Canon 10-22mm is built on an EF-S mount (as is the 17-85mm), which is only compatible with the 20D and the Digital Rebels. Hope this helps...Miami Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davelepka 4 #6 January 26, 2006 Oh, OK I see. I guess I figured that having the comversion factor for small sensor cameras was confusing enough, they had to introduce camera specific lenses as well. Yeah, that makes sense. Sure. I'm glad I don't work for Canon, because their thought process is beyond me. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
psw097 0 #7 January 26, 2006 I thought the point of the EF-S lens mount was to make lenses small and cheap. The 10-22 is slow, about the size of a 17-xx FF lens, only fits 3 bodies, optically not considered that great and almost $700. Must be good margins in it for Canon. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Miami 0 #8 January 26, 2006 I don't like it either...really wanted a 10-22mm for my 20D but I'm not willing to now that there are plans to get a full frame like the 5D in the future. I don't want a lens that won't work with all my cameras.Miami Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Miami 0 #9 January 26, 2006 Supply and demand I guess, the opportunities I had to play with it on friend's cameras I was pretty impressed with it.Miami Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davelepka 4 #10 January 26, 2006 QuoteI don't want a lens that won't work with all my cameras. Yeah, no shit. What happened to the 'EOS system'? It was supposed to be the ultimate photo set-up. with everything you could ever need, and everything was interchangable. Maybe they had a 'Bring your crack-whore to work day' at Canon, and while the regular employees were at lunch, the crack-whores got into the product planning dept. Just a guess.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #11 January 26, 2006 The EF mount is 100% across the board. Full frame, Digital, 35mm it will work. The EF-S is a compressed EF lens that will work on the 300d, 350d and the 20D currently. They are intended to take advantange of the 1.6 conversion and use smaller glass. This means less weight, less cost and an overall smaller lens. Issue is that since they are using glass smaller then full frame its worthless for a 35mm or full frame sensor body. Something to watch out for is companies figured out the smaller glass thing works on EF mounts also so they are creating "Digital" lenses that use the same properties as the EF-S series but still work on the EF mount so they work on the 300d, 350d, D30,D60, 10D and 20D. I bought a Sigma DC lens before I realised what was going on so I'm stuck with the lens on a body that needs a conversion factor. You really need to read the fine print to make sure the lens will work on a 35mm body still. The good thing is you are looking at probally 3-5 years before full frame sensors make their way into your average skydiving photographers hands. At $3500 for a 5D right not not too many people will run out and get it, at $750 for a 350D... thats a lot eaiser to afford. Your EF-S lenses are not trash just yet.Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davelepka 4 #12 January 27, 2006 Good answer. The whole thing is still retarded. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites