davidfreefly 0 #1 February 8, 2006 hi friends. I have a question. i need a wide angle lens for tandem. which is better choice? Kenko .5 Liquid.45 Blue eye. 45 Diamond sealth .5 the best price is kenko... but im afraid with fogging. Is foggin a real problem with kenko? Any tips ________________________ DAVID DOVAL www.paracaidismogalicia.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
piisfish 140 #2 February 8, 2006 Sony .6scissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YISkyDive 0 #3 February 8, 2006 why do you say this? Most people on my DZ shot .43 just wondering, not criticizing. thanks Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davidfreefly 0 #4 February 8, 2006 becuase i dont want to fly so close to the tandem.. im not a pro, i only have 50 jumps filming tandems. i can fly confortable, i can grip the student hand.. but i dont want to go wider ... i think .5 is good ________________________ DAVID DOVAL www.paracaidismogalicia.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davidfreefly 0 #5 February 8, 2006 are way cool blue eye good? ________________________ DAVID DOVAL www.paracaidismogalicia.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
piisfish 140 #6 February 8, 2006 Quotewhy do you say this? Most people on my DZ shot .43 it seems each and every brand has different measuring and sizing system. All cameras are different too. The Sony .6 I was very happy with it (combined with a PC8).scissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pbla4024 0 #7 February 8, 2006 I like BlueEYE for WS jumps. Some people say all low profile lenses are made by one manufacturer under different brand names, I doubt you will find any quality difference. Fido Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tcnelson 1 #8 February 8, 2006 i don't do tandem video with it but, i've been using the diamond .5 for some time now and i've had no problems whatsoever...fogging or otherwise. it's been terrific."Don't talk to me like that assface...I don't work for you yet." - Fletch NBFT, Deseoso Rodriguez RB#1329 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freefalle 0 #9 February 8, 2006 Which lens you use depends on how close you fly to you tandems. I know people who fly with a .03 who truly need to be flying with a .03 because when they are shooting the tandem I could touch their nose because they are close. I also know people who shoot tandem videos who use a .03 lens because they think thats whats cool. The problem is they fly so far away from the tandem pair the the tandem looks small in that wide field of view. My recommendation to poeple who are learning to shoot video is to not use a wide angle lens at all, if you are flying 6 or more feet away from the tandem pair the standard lens on most video cameras will do just fine and also provide a better video. As your skills improve, if you find that you like flying closer to the tandem pair start with a .05, and when that isn't wide enough move to a .45 or a .3 Thats just my suggestion, for what its worth. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Miami 0 #10 February 8, 2006 QuoteWhich lens you use depends on how close you fly to you tandems. I know people who fly with a .03 who truly need to be flying with a .03 because when they are shooting the tandem I could touch their nose because they are close... Funny story along those lines, as I have almost always jumped a very wide angle lens (.3 or so) with tandems... Long time ago was filming tandems at a dz I was visiting in texas. They were jumping a porter, which at the time I was not familiar with at all. First or second tandem I make a little contact with them on exit, but we get separation, get stable, and I take my position in front of them. During the freefall the TM notices my camera had been knocked crooked by about 45 degrees from our previous contact. Fortunately he is aware enough and I am close enough that he just reaches down with one hand, grabs my bracket, and rotates it back to level!Miami Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davidfreefly 0 #11 February 8, 2006 ANYONE KNOWS SOMETHING ABOUT XDREAM-OPTICS FROM GERMANY? http://www.xdream-optics.de ________________________ DAVID DOVAL www.paracaidismogalicia.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nate_1979 9 #12 February 8, 2006 Quotehi friends. Blue eye. 45 Diamond sealth .5 I'm ot shooting tandems any time soon, but I tried to get the Diamond Stealth and they were on a crazy backorder,. .. Got the Way Cool Blue Eye and I think it's a pretty good lens, no complaints with it here.. The video looks pretty good. I also got the protective cover that they sell with it, which fits over the lens (like a filter, but it's not) ... I like the idea that the actual lens is protected when it's jumped. FGF #??? I miss the sky... There are 10 types of people in the world... those who understand binary and those who don't. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
andyflylife 0 #13 February 8, 2006 Hi y'all, Just my observations. When i was looking for my 1st w/a lens i tested both the Kenko 0.5 and the Sony 0.6. I was surprised to find that the Sony 0.6 had a much wider field of view than the Kenko 0.5, which really confused me... Anyway's i bought the kenko as i'm a newbie to flying camera and it seems to give nice results!! Blues.. "swooper 24/7, 365!" ME on Myspace My Project playlist Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davidfreefly 0 #14 February 8, 2006 ok thanks for the tip! My main doubt now is a kenko .5 or a xdream optics .5 from germany Money makes me doubt. Would notice any difference between this lenses. kenko costs about 35 € and xdream 99 € (im afraid with foggin) would the kenko fog more than the xdream?? ________________________ DAVID DOVAL www.paracaidismogalicia.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob.dino 1 #15 February 8, 2006 Waycool have a page showing the different fields of view obtained with their lenses. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
velocityphoto 0 #16 February 9, 2006 I use a .3 royal-lense and zoom it to my needs and manually focus. This way you are versitile with other things too. A friend will bail you out of jail , a REAL friend will be sitting next to you in the cell slapping your hand saying "DUDE THAT WAS AWSUM " ................ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Canuck 0 #17 February 9, 2006 I'm a huge fan of the Sony .6 In my personal testing, I have found it to be a wider lens than any of the .5 lenses you have listed. Also, it is a very low hassle lens as you can use the infinity setting with it, and the picture quality through it is superior to that of any of the single element lenses (IMO). I had a Diamond .3 for a weekend, and then promptly sent it back... Canuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davidfreefly 0 #18 February 9, 2006 sony .6 a good choice, but a lot friends told me about fogging problems with that lense... so i would like to expend a bit more of money and avoid this problem ________________________ DAVID DOVAL www.paracaidismogalicia.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mattjw916 2 #19 February 9, 2006 I have not experienced any fogging problems with that lens. In fact, it is an excellent lens IMO. It's big, lets lot of light in, and has no visible distortion. All in all not bad for ~$40.NSCR-2376, SCR-15080 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HUSHPUPPY 0 #20 February 14, 2006 I'm not doing tandem video, but I am very happy with my Kenko .5 on a Sony HC-40! "You made my panties wet!" Skymama (Fitz 09) "Never argue with an idiot. They will bring you down to their level and beat you with experience." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diverds 0 #21 February 14, 2006 You should choose your video lens to match up with your still lens. You want both cameras to have the same field of view so that your stills come out framed the same as your video. For tandems I use a kenko .5 with a 28mm fixed lens on my still camera. These lenses match up almost perfectly. As for fogging issues, if the conditions are right you are going to get condensation regardless of the lens you are using. There are anti fog products out there that will help with this. Cat Crap seems to be the choice of many photogs here. Skydive Radio Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
