CornishChris 5 #1 May 20, 2003 I have been looking at 2nd hand gear but I have a concern. Most of the rigs I am looking at are not cypres equipped. This means that I cannot jump them (A Lic). Now I obviously will get a Cypres but I can't really fit it into a rig I do not own so how can I jump a rig before buying it. I suppose I could either: 1. Get someone I trust who knows my canopy skills etc. to jump it and give me a verdict. 2. Get the main placed in another container that is Cypres equipped and jump that - not sure how easy this will be. I have had one friend state that as long as I am wing loading correctly (the one I am interested in is c. 1.1:1) that I should be fine under most canopies - he described it as like Bikes (which I ride), 90% of it is being on the bike and enjoying that and 10% is what bike it is. Any advice. CJP CJP Gods don't kill people. People with Gods kill people Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lazerq3 0 #2 May 20, 2003 Is that a new rule ..not being able to jump w/out an AAD til you have your 'A'?.. Anyway when I was looking to buy I jumped my container and main a couple times before buying but then when I went to downsize I heard so many good things about the hornets I thought F#CK it and jsut bought one w/out ever flying one... I cant speak for anyone else but I've had NO regrets so far!! Now maybe I just lucked out and I certainly dont recomend anyone jsut doing this but I am proof that someone can go out and by completely happy with a purchase without having to fly umteen canopies...and it worked out AWSOME for me!!! Worst case senerio(sp) I'd have to send it back...( plus the price was a BIG ++ for me) So as far as advice goes I'd say talk to your instructors and do what you feel comfy with...yeah I know ..not really good advise but thats my story jasonFreedom of speech includes volume Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #3 May 20, 2003 Quotenot being able to jump w/out an AAD til you have your 'A'?.. Its in the SIM that students must have some sort of AAD and a non-licensed jumper is cosidered to be a student (if I remember correctly). Ask around your DZ or your DZO or somebody to see if you can borrow a rig with an AAD to put that Hornet in to see if you like flying it. On a side note, I've put about 50 jumps on a Hornet and I loved it. It flies real similar to a Sabre2.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lazerq3 0 #4 May 20, 2003 Hey dave ..just for clarification I'm not sure if hes looking to fly a horent..I just said that in my post cause that was my situation... again just FYI!jason Freedom of speech includes volume Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #5 May 20, 2003 D'oh! Sorry.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skybytch 273 #6 May 20, 2003 QuoteI have had one friend state that as long as I am wing loading correctly (the one I am interested in is c. 1.1:1) that I should be fine under most canopies What kind of main is it? Have you jumped anything that size yet? If you're okay with the idea that had you been able to demo you may have preferred a nine cell instead of a seven cell (or vice versa) or a "tapered" canopy instead of a rectangular one, buying it without jumping it isn't that big a deal. Have it all looked at by a rigger (including checking the line trim) and make sure the harness fits you before paying the money though. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
towerrat 0 #7 May 20, 2003 everyone here seems focused on main canopies, but you said you were going to purchase a rig. I assume You mean harness/container, main and reserve. The problem I see is fit for the harness. I have jumped harnesses that fit well on the ground, but were totally uncomfortable on opening.As far as I'm concerned you are taking a big risk if you don't at least check sizing with the manufacturer. I personally would have to jump it. Most manufacturers should be able to tell you if the rig will fit or not if you give them your measurements. MeatbombPlay stupid games, win stupid prizes! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lazerq3 0 #8 May 20, 2003 Quote everyone here seems focused on main canopies UH HMM!!! Quote Anyway when I was looking to buy I jumped my container and main a couple times before buying ....jasonFreedom of speech includes volume Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
towerrat 0 #9 May 20, 2003 ***Post: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- everyone here seems focused on main canopies -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- UH HMM!!! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Anyway when I was looking to buy I jumped my container and main a couple times before buying -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- .... I'm sorry I missed the point. I'm not sure what the implication is herePlay stupid games, win stupid prizes! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CornishChris 5 #10 May 20, 2003 The harness fits fine. the main is a 7 cell 200. i am currently jumping a 190 and have been doing so for c. 20 jumps. In Australia, where I am, I am unable to jump without an AAD until I have a C license. CJP CJP Gods don't kill people. People with Gods kill people Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GroundZero 0 #11 May 20, 2003 Go for it... if it is a good price... seems like it will be appropriate for you. move this quote (below, in quotation marks) to a few other forums... it is quite good... and also appropriate. As more and more information becomes available...thankyou internet, people quit thinking and only read... use your brain and soul to skydive... It has worked for many years past and probably works very well today, if implemented. "most canopies - he described it as like Bikes (which I ride), 90% of it is being on the bike and enjoying that and 10% is what bike it is." Very well said...I think that applies to all forms of skydiving as well..... Chris Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masher 1 #12 May 20, 2003 QuoteThe harness fits fine. the main is a 7 cell 200. i am currently jumping a 190 and have been doing so for c. 20 jumps. In Australia, where I am, I am unable to jump without an AAD until I have a C license. CJP Actually, you need a D to jump without an AAD.-- Arching is overrated - Marlies Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mikkey 0 #13 May 20, 2003 "Actually, you need a D to jump without an AAD. " And you have to use RSL if you do not use AAD at D license. I think E & F can do whatever they want.--------------------------------------------------------- When people look like ants - pull. When ants look like people - pray. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CornishChris 5 #14 May 21, 2003 I did know that actually - it was a C/D typo. Oops. CJP CJP Gods don't kill people. People with Gods kill people Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grumpy 9 #15 May 21, 2003 ...and at Picton, the local rule applying to you (and anyone else with up to a D licence) is that you have to have a Cypres and an RSL. (other DZ's don't make you use an RSL if you have an AAD) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rredman 0 #16 May 21, 2003 I had 40ish jumps when I bought a rig, without a main, tried it on the ground and the guy I bought it from was a similar size and body type to me. I got the main seperately and when I got the two together I asked an instructor at our DZ jump it just to make sure them main was ok (since I bought from someone I didn't know over the net).. luckily it all worked out well, and 50 jumps later, I finally jumped my own rig! That was a couple of hundred ago, so I guess, if you can't jump it before you buy it, make sure it fits on the ground, and have someone at your DZ check the fit for you, and see if you can get someone to jump it for you, just to make sure.. just a few thoughts from north of the 49th! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dreamsville 0 #17 May 22, 2003 "and see if you can get someone to jump it for you, just to make sure.. " You should be the judge: jump it yourself for fit, trim, and flare. Pre-inspection should reveal most problems. I must say though, that I had a trim problem that did not seem to be related to line length when the riggers checked it. Later, PD "made some adjustments", but shipped it back with the same line set. Now it flies straight. Still not sure what they did. |I don't drink during the day, so I don't know what it is about this airline. I keep falling out the door of the plane. Harry, FB #4143 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
